Every podcast is all about them! You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? She mentions how the search parties on the 13th had a hard time finding the girls because they didnt think the were looking for bodies but alive girls and she says additionally, also they were partially covered. What does that mean? He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. Both my gut instinct and logic are screaming, Verify the statements of FSG!! I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. But we have said many of the same things, which may be confirmation of my visions in a way. Important facts released by family. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. It is unclear whether they were referring to Allen or not. DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. LE still has access to the conviction. But how could they possibly know this? Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. Both investigators were women. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. However, he added that it is not a day to celebrate as families of teenagers are forced to live without them. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. You dont have to join. Kegan Kline, 28, of Peru, Indiana, was named as a possible suspect in the girls' murders. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a9ecdae37f37f9e5f76df75466de7fce" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. But he also got wrapped up in collecting and apparently trading real deal child porn with little girls. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Im sure that was a LOL feeling for him. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LEs investigation of him. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? The investigation continued, and Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. 3) This man is a *heavy* smoker and a functioning alcoholic. A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? The fact that I believe LE has been busy trying to cover up the mistakes they made early on leads me to believe that they inadvertently helped BG get away with this horrendous crime and continue to do so by withholding almost every piece of information possible from the public, while at the same time begging for that one tip they need to make an arrest. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. The 2017 murder of Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? One question: I havent seen this anywhere but have the police questioned Mr. X about the murders? On the day of the murders, he was wearing a blue jacket and jeans. The bodies had been staged and the killing would likely have caused the killer to get . 9) He has killed before. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. Klines voice, however, has not been ruled out. We believe this because this is what we were told. In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. Its burgundy. In a blown-up pic of him, you can clearly see that it has the shape of handcuffs. That leads me, and others more knowledgeable than me, that there was SOMETHING with the bodies (possibly posed)that local LE thought there could be a serial killer. They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. Classy. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? Then that's no "grudge"., That's called pure evil. movements and events. They say they want to prevent false confessions. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. When investigators got that device, they found that many files had been deleted and social media apps uninstalled. 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. Investigators also cite a witness who saw Allen walking with "clothes that were muddy and bloody," according to the probable cause affidavit. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Got it? This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. The manner of death has never been revealed. Libby's father, Derrick, makes them pancakes for breakfast. A 50-year-old suspect, identified as Richard Allen, has been arrested at the Carroll County Jail in connection with the murders of Abigail Williams and Libby German, whose bodies were found near the Delphi Historic Trail shortly after being reported missing in February . That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. The only thing I can think of is it was too gruesome, in their mind, to release," Garrett said. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. Allen told investigators on Oct. 13, 2022, that he wore jeans and a blue or black Carhartt jacket that day, according to the probable cause affidavit. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. where Liberty German and Abigail Williams were seen before they were reported missing by their families on Feb. 13, 2017. In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. There is a difference between a scene that is staged and a scene that is posed, McCollum said. Give it a rest, everyone. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. [42] Derrick leaves to go take photos for Becky's business. What is this guy, another Zodiac? I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? "When asked about the unspent bullet, [Allen] did not have an explanation of why the bullet was found between" the girls' bodies, the probable cause affidavit said. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Allen was taken into custody and booked into the Carroll County Jail in connection with the horrific crime. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. Its odd how there is that other photo of what looks like BG sitting on park bench. I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. The FBI has released a description for the suspect, which is that he is a white male between 5'6" and 5'8" tall. Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. Chemicals used in an attempt to hide fingerprints. Investigators released a still image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill.. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Idle speculation at its finest. 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This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. We obtained this document via a public records request. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, Indiana, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. There appears to be no mention of the Delphi murders or any information linking Kline to the case. On Feb. 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty "Libby" German went to the Monon High Bridge in their home town of Delphi, Ind., while off from school for an unused snow day. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now. A mystery man was captured in a grainy video taken on Libby's phone the day of her. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. All of the speculation about their final moments is unconfirmed. Any context? Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. Despite mention of a gun, it's not clear if Abby or Libby died from gunshot wounds. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. She was found in an ivory/white dress. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! Put the competing theory to the logic test. Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . She described his eyes as dark and evil. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. Lawyered up, not talking. A statement was made that said the scene was horrific. Why say you have crime scene photos if you're not intending to share them? Where all opportunists go to insert themselves into the case. Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. Suspect: Ok, you got me. Apparently. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. Forgive me if someone else posted this.but the FBI was called in immediately. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? Amazingly, Libby German took a video of a man walking behind her and Abby Williams on the bridge, who is believed to be the killer. Thank you so much! Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? It was posted to Facebook by Allen's wife Kathy, 50, in 2018 - just over a year after the girls disappeared in February 2017, although it's unclear when the photo was taken. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. Do the searchers who found the bodies know if they were posed? Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. An updated sketch for the suspect was released in April of 2019, and no further information about his appearance has been publicly shared. Its a dead end. Thanks Dee. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Apologies if this has been covered here before, but the rumor that Libby was found shirtless and nearly decapitated and that Abby was found still clothed and posed with her hands folded, does anyone know exactly how it originated and if there is anything circumstantial to back it . Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. Yes it is all speculation. It finally started to sink in to these geniuses when the case was made look one of the eye witnesses who contributed to the 1st BG sketch is a lady who lives right behind Ron Logan, dont you think if the Killer was Ron that she would say, simply yeah the guy I saw that day lives right behind me? Not that anyone who has half a brain needs to be convinced Ron Logan is not the killer lol. Would love to join the private group. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. "I didn't waaaaaant to, but I didn't want to be called a liiiiiiiiar". Investigators also believed photographs or videos were likely shot of the grotesque set-up to 'memorialize' the crime scene. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Garrett explained that an "unspent bullet is one that has the casing and the projectile still together." However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. Delphi murders: Killer staged bodies and may have taken souvenir, new documents reveal Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. This happened b/w the mid-80s to early-90s. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. Drunkard perhaps. According to Garrett, it's unlikely Allen would be bloody if a gun was the only murder weapon, unless Allen handled the bodies in some manner. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. You write an article saying some guys not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. In an interview with DailyMail.com in 2021, Chadwell's brother characterized him as being 'pure evil,' and more than capable of the Delphi murders. Both girls were posed with their legs spread wide in a sexual posing. The pre-trial hearing in this case is to be held in January. See? This has helped me a lot. Alex Oliveira For Dailymail.Com, $49m to live four blocks from THAT drug market? He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims. This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. No one else reacted that way. Did he see BG? BG is a 50 year old man. I have seen very poor crime scene photos. I am featuring a world renowned psychic detective through an interview Ill be conducting tomorrow. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. Let me jump in here. Unfortunately, its not free. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. Stay tuned. Investigators believe the man is the killer. I love you and the information youre releasing! Ronald Logan was never named a suspect, despite the warrant. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. LE themselves have admitted that they have one smudged fingerprint. After news of Allen's arrest broke on Friday, another disturbing photo of the possible perp emerged and began to circulate online. Your email address will not be published. I get it. Search warrants obtained by a podcast and a local television station are shedding new . -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! Your critiques are not even making sense. Thats very embarrassing. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. Garrett said it's possible that the gun jammed and the killer turned to another weapon. Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. I am sure the person you and Mr. Lindsay are speculating who BG is, is spot on. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. There is a press conference on Monday at 10 a.m. We will say more. In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? They were reported missing two hours after they didn't show up for their ride home, and their bodies were found the following day about half a mile away from the bridge. LE has no clue what is going on. This March marks the 30 th anniversary of the murder of 21 year-old Penn State student, Dana Bailey. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. He has since been moved to a state facility for his own safety. Hes been on my radar for a long time now. Forget it. Can you spell out the name? Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. Copyright 2023 Distractify. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. Who are you friends with. Its at his home on a shelf! I found who mr. X is. Investigators have been mostly mum on many case details but a redacted warrant provides a glimpse into information surrounding the murder scene, suspect, and victims. Police cleared nations as a suspect. 242? "In a small town, in a place where there's a small amount of traffic on this abandoned railroad bridge your suspect pool is fairly small," Garrett said, so police likely concentrated their investigation on Delphi and the surrounding communities. My ideas, of course, are just speculative like those put forth by others. Chilling photo uploaded to Facebook a year after Delphi murders shows arrested man's daughter, 28, pose in SAME spot where victims took final snaps . The girls bodies were discovered on his . FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. Libbys phone did not record him for 43 seconds. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. Not sure of the significance here. And humans are animals too. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. Must be a lot of people with that name. It's interesting to look at anyway. Indiana police looked into Bruce in connection to the Delphi murders, but no charges have been handed down. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. At least two prior marriages. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. The Evansdale crime was committed on 7-13-12, and the Delphi crime was committed on 2-13-17. Kelsi German has been cleared. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. Wow, this is some incredible news. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. How would she be a few weeks pregnant by a guy that just raped her? Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Where did he get the food and what was the food? LE doesnt like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. Investigators seized several devices, but Kline contacted them a few days later about a device they hadnt seized. For more than five years, the families of the two girls have been searching for answers as to what happened and who was responsible for their murders. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/comments/n33koj/gray_hughes_new_information/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? One daughter, estranged. I have the images but Im not sure they are accurate. 4) He was married many years prior. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Its as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. Makes no sense at all. Allen, who is also known as Ricky Allen and Rick Allen, is 50 years old and lives in Delphi, about five minutes from the murder scene. The LE source below is an LE sources close to the Delphi Murders investigation. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. I dont know what these names mean. Continue reading to find out what the alleged Delphi Murders leaked text messages are all about. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. Its not clear how? This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. Theres no woman among them. Their bodies were discovered the next day in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. He was charged with child molestation, and was linked to the Delphi murders because of his strong resemblance to the man in the Delphi video, and a preliminary police sketch investigators had circulated of the suspect.

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