I am 63. Ministries. He publicly criticized other local church leaders and called them out in the media and then doesnt really share his issues. Show me one bit of Biblical historicity in favor of the modern seeker-oriented megachurch. The Porch. . On the cult thing: LIsten to this longer presentation from a high school ministry event. I have NEVER been asked to, let alone forced, to disclose financial information. Watermark might want the groups to be run a certain way, but that doesnt mean the group has to follow the rules. I think you may have missed a decimal point according to the link in the post his house (verified to be the correct Todd Wagner) was a little over $1.5 million as of 2019. Approach with caution but it is OK to approach. but unfortunately christian powerbrokers have made christianity about things other than Jesus Christ. Synopsis of the case is as follows. So in summary, Watermark isnt a cult because they follow Jesus better than anyone, are more radical about it than anyone else, and if thats what a cult is, oh well, I guess were a Jesus cult! Before you Sign. There are no congregational votes nor do individual members have a 'say' in how things are handled. Wowza, what does Whoopie have to do with this? If I thought I couldnt work with someone I wouldnt be turning around and working with them. Every argument you put forth seems to be based on your subjective opinion based on your speculation, assumption, and judgement.. Watermark encourages people to confess their sins to one another and to admonish faithfully but thats because thats what the Bible tells us to do as believers.. He added that he and Wagner are good and there is no anger, malice, or slander between them. Most people in the U.S. have a lavish lifestyle compared to most believers around the world. Awaken Conference 2021. You CANNOT, however, attempt to withdraw membership to avoid church discipline. The lessons were unifying and not surfacy. Its all sunshine and roses till you see it firsthand. Thats not true. I cannot imagine that Jesus, given all options, would choose to live among the wealthiest citizens in the most landscaped, luxurious part of the city. Another requirement for membership is that you find an area in which to serve in the church. In my next post Ill share another story from another former-Watermark member. You do make the near perfect member with your automated trust in leadership, over having an open mind to others sharing their personal experiences. I dont know folks.if you have to go online and record a video to explain how your church is not a cult..this might lead into a Jeff Foxworthy joke! In this murky situation, however, the two men dont need honorary titles. I first visited Watermark in 2005 when they were still meeting at a high school in Dallas. Log In. So I canceled my move. on The Aftermath: Stories from Former Watermark Church Members, Youth Volunteer at The Village Church Confesses to Sexual Abuse of Minors. Seems like theres a lot of hurting people with a lot to hide on this thread. +++++++++++++++++. In the end, I do think it is a matter of opinion, but I think churches should lean toward transparency. What a bizarre statement. They gossip. Wow! A calendar of future events, classes, Bible studies, and programs happening with Watermark Community Church. Watermark Community Church is an elder-led congregation. R.w. Did he stay and open his churches to the people that were cold and hungry? As for two doctrinal statements, our church has something similar, one for members and one for leaders. even so, i think its patently obvious that living as the 1% by 1st world standards, even in part, is lavish by any and all standards. Before I get into the first story, I want to lay some groundwork to help my readers understand how the structure of community groups at Watermark Church works. a lavish lifestyle is contrary to everything Jesus stood for if Jesus still matters, and if anyone actually remembers. I guess we just arent ALL as brave as Todd to resign or be open about confession or a need to step back. There is so much judgement on here it has to hurt the heart of God. How do you know Todd pays that? JP ended up leaving because of it. I bet some of you, dont attend or are part of the church, Jealousy amongst many of you I can smell from here. its raw observation on your part you arent being led at all. Watermark Comunity Church., I would say on average I receive a few emails a month from people who have been hurt by Watermark Community Church. In our case, it is because those in leadership are held to a higher standard; more is expected of them in terms of their beliefs and practice. Todd was my counselor at Kanakuk Camps for a summer. Regardless I loved your passion and pray that Holy Spirit would cover you and lead you in the area that needs correction. (I share this not to be super-negative, but just because this practice is far [], CALL TO ACTION Former WM Members Did WM pray for you, or did WM prey on you? Love you Todd If not? (although my personal view is a modest lifestyle is best for all, and all things considered,). Community groups are the epicenter of Watermark Church. Ill happily answer any questions, but for any Believers here I would strongly encourage you to first take this to the Lord in prayer, then His word, and then ask yourself if its healthy or wise or appropriate to make such claims about a person / place you know almost nothing about. He has people who fund his life so no donations are used for that purpose and so he can fully focus on running the mission.. do you have knowledges that Todd is spending money frivolously? Perfectly said Scottie. Another requirement for membership is that you find an area in which to serve in the church. The man and his wife were Watermark members. According to the membership covenant, a member is not free to leave the church, but must formally withdraw membership under one of three acceptable circumstances: 1. Susan says she is now happy to be away from Watermark Church and is healing. There are also a lot of factors that go into measuring ones wealth, not just the dollar value of ones house; and there are a lot of things that go into measuring ones character, other than how much money one has or the kind of house one lives in. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? If by community you mean meeting with like-minded individuals to foster friendships & develop relationships then great. -, Watermark Community Church has believers SIGN Who aint very happy. Todd was put on sabbatical to reflect about his proud attitude. Im sorry to hear of judgement that has been passed around. May 28, 2006 — -- A female member of the Watermark Community Church, . Just because you have never been abused in the way these people have, does not negate that they were. We don't remove someone's formal status as a member for struggling with sin - whether that sin is pride, materialism, or sexual sin. Below are screenshots of their membership covenant. Are Calvinism and YEC accurately described as higher? And why? When this article was written, Why wouldnt they just tell the church what happened? I know that there are many different types of church governance. TWW last left Wagner on leave due to pride in Todd Wagner, the Controversial Pastor of Watermark Church, Steps Away *for a Season. What Happens Now? Hes not the pastor of Watermark. Oh, I wouldnt be so sure of that. In His end the crowd that He drew wanted to see Him tortured to death in the most cruel way possible. It sounds like maybe you want Todd to fall in line with the way you think things should be instead of what is biblical. They refuse to be honest so they can make a come back in a year or two. Todd Wagner is a guy that would jump in a foxhole with me with the bullets are flying, and I for him. Tim The information is on Watermark Churchs website: Voluntary Member Termination: Members who move from the local area, change churches, or no longer meet the requirements for active Membership may be removed from Watermark Membership.. And this is important. He didnt even buy the house, it was gifted by a member years ago. He had no recollection of ever having seen or met you before because he was so self absorbed. Please would you please explain a bit more about this take on Christs death. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. A lower court has already ruled that the church is free to release private information about its members. I would be ok disclosing financial information to my community group. even if 100% true (zero exaggeration or embroidery), it almost makes it sound like Todd was an unwitting victim of disproportionate generosity and was utterly helpless. It is the Lord Jesus who is in control after all folks. Where appropriate, upon request,. Thats for God to reveal or conceal.. I highly recommend that you watch the video, because if you watch it with just the tiniest bit of scrutiny, you will notice Todd Wagner work some word-magic here. Also resigned is David Leventhal, an elder and teaching pastor at Watermark, who said he had lost trust in Wagners leadership. In September 2020, Wagner announced he was taking a leave of absence to work on pride issues. Izael who are you to judge someone elses experience? Yeah, I glanced at it. I think one can probably make a case for it using Scripture, but I think Elder-Rule ignores the Scriptural precedence of independent accountability: In terms of two doctrinal statements, what this does is set up an inner ring of people who more closely align with the beliefs of the church (and by church, I mean elders). christian leaders who are not straightforward and forthright cannot be healthy. What a strange and often sad world much of American white evangelicalism has become. I promise Im not trolling yall. Churches that utilize a confession like the Westminster, 1689, or the 39 articles seem comfortable requiring specificity in their doctrine for both members and pastors I think this is more transparent, and thus healthier, than having two statements. The twin resignations come after months of turmoil at the church. 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Dismiss the abuse of others how did you come to that conclusion? Its upto Him. Move away 2.Join another (approved) church 3. Even through this challenges we can be so judgements these day. You live by Elder-Rule, you die by Elder-Rule. For much of Wagners speech in the video, Leventhal did not look at Wagner, but stared straight ahead. seems pretty far-fetched to me, but sure makes for a great explanation and a great story (if youre not Todd or the supposed wealthy person, this is what you were told). David (elder) Himself had lot to grow in area of discernment, the way he is reacting isnt ok either. If the things she claims were stated from the pulpit are true, there should be plenty of documentation. Its how relationships are formed and accountability is established or thats what they want you to think. All Campuses . Our church has an elder-type rule that is healthy, but I know of churches that have had an elder-type rule that is not so healthy. This piece has been updated. Both Wagner and Leventhal will remain at Watermark as elders emeritus. Ive never heard of nor attended a church with such a position. If you were not From Highland Park or University Park Todd Had no use for you. . Usually blood in the water attracts sharks, but nothing that fierce here, just a bunch of blood sucking remoras. The initial corporate fraud is in fact the membership agreement itself. like hes a programmed automaton. In some ways this reminds me of the CJ Mahaney and Sovereign Grace debacle. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 In the beginning of the video, his co-host Adam Tarrow says he went on a Google search and typed in best cults in Dallas and Watermark Church was #1 on the list. Or, in this case, you live on as Elder Emeritus! Smarmy Dictionary Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? It is kindness that brings people to repentance. The whole situation reeks of status and power, neither of which is a good look for a pastor. Im confident Todd wagner has done more to help people than all commenters combined. -. The only fees were for the materials we used. Im not saying that the Watermark Todd Wagner lives in a shack, by any means. Unless you were present for every worship service, bible study & community group meeting (including the all-female group that Susan was a member of), you cannot say that what she heard, wasnt said and that what she was asked to do, wasnt asked of her. These resources are found in Appendix V and Appendix VI at the end of this case study and in the clarifications given by Watermark in the section Watermark's Response to the Nation. Per Todd Wagner I was not the right person or the right fit or whatever he thought. Having community is not the issue its how Watermark DEFINES community. BUT are now returned to Thats what they all seem to do.

Prestonwood Baptist also made the list (top 20) and its nowhere near a cult.

. Its extremely worrisome that they feel they have to hide and be afraid of what Watermark Church may say or do in response to them telling the truth about their abuse. Yet it turns out they are getting people toRead more , Hi to all, Ive been a member of Watermark for over three years, went through Re:Generation and now co-lead a community group. According to a report by National Public Radio, the Catholic Church has paid more than $3 billion in child sexual abuse lawsuit settlements in America alone. In these community groups you are enmeshing your entire life into the church. Forgot account? But, we ALL should be. Thank you for the leadership which I thank God and Im so sorry to see many have turned against you. Prestonwood Baptist also made the list (top 20) and its nowhere near a cult. It looks as if an elder finally stood up and refused to be silenced. Seems there are some Watermark menbers Different guys. Best wishes to the church members, though. . I went through the Re:Engage program twice early in its development. I went to a church with a broadly evangelical membership statement coupled with a specifically Calvinistic, and specifically young earth creationist, teaching statement. (How many of you have actually prayed for Todd)? He walked with an air of superiority that was disgusting. Todd gave me support and comfort during a rough time in my life, and I will be FOREVER grateful. Church leaders concealed sexual abuse of young children, lawsuits allege. Not Todds decision but good try on the poor stewardship bit. I received some emails from former Watermark Church members who wanted to tell their stories, but were hesitant to share too much online, for fear of repercussions, or as I refer to it, fair game. Agreed. However, an expert on church property law says the churches . Todd portrays it all as a divine God told me sort of thing. I was informed that this was a gift from a wealthy individual who has known Todd a long time and does not attend Watermark. Ive been at Watermark for 7 years and experienced people in my community group leaving the church; there are NO such requirements or stipulations that prevent you from leaving the group or the church entirely. Really miss your sermons and spirit led preaching. It was a class before the main church service where people around the same age as you sat in a room, listened to a bible lesson, maybe interacted a bit, shared prayer requests, took up a small offering, held hands and said a closing prayer. Or you perfect? it simply looks very bad. Wow. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. And in Ecclesiastes 12:14, For God will bring every deedRead more , I would be curious to know if you are ok with disclosing all of your financial information to your community group and seeking their approval on life decisions? If you dont want to be a member at Watermark you dont have to be.Read more , There is a difference between positional authority and spiritual authority. There is a filthy rich entrepreneur whose name is Todd Wagner. For I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole purpose of God., Wagner also warned the congregation with words from the passage, stating that after my departure savage wolves will come among you, and from your own selves men will (rise up), speaking perverse things. Then, modifying Pauls description of his three years spent in Ephesus to Wagners 22 years at Watermark, Wagner added, Therefore be on the alert, remembering that night and day for a period of 22 years I did not cease to admonish each one with tears., The congregation at Watermark responded to Wagner with a standing ovation. Where are you getting this information? (note spelling a/e) I have met small groups all over the Dallas area of cast aside individuals who bonded over the abuse they experienced while attending this organization. Get eSignature workflows, document management, and business process automation with the airSlate Business Cloud. The elder team is interdependent of each other, creating a system in which it is impossible or highly difficult to discipline or remove any one elder. Regardless we know Romans 8:28 maybe its a season of 2 Tim 3:16-17. In the video, an emotional Leventhal said that he had resigned on March 26 because of a loss of trust in Todds ability to lead in the role of pastoral elder/senior pastor, which was the direction the elders were wanting to move to.. I dont think so. Watermark, a fast-growing nondenominational church in northeast Dallas, says the case involves accusations of adultery, a wife who wanted to save her marriage, a husband who sat on a board of a national Christian organization, and another woman who works for another church. Cant even begin to address this without feeling a sense of disappointment. The elders at Watermark, along with Wagner and Leventhal, announced the resignations at services yesterday. You may be thinking of a different Todd Wagner, who is a longtime partner of Mark Cuban. Before coming to Watermark, I never knew the Bible could be applied to my life. Todd Wagner, senior pastor of Watermark Community Churcha multi-site megachurch in the Dallas area with an average attendance of 11,000announced yesterday that. Yet, Mickey Friedrich says: [dont] try and judge whose version of events is right or wrong, and that even Friedrich and Thompson land at a different place than (Leventhal and Wagner) regarding why weve arrived here.. business Top 100. Just the congregationhmmmmmm.. The Dallas ISD board of trustees approved the sale in late August; records show Watermark paid $211,000 for nine acres of building and bare land off Second Avenue a steal, no matter the. Let me rephrase: I came to watermark on a visit with my sons family. Yes WM hides abusers and minimizes victims. My people hath been lost sheep: At the beginning of each year our membership goes to zero. My perception is this former member did take their concerns to leadership. Amy Smith of the blog Watchkeep has documented her experience there, and it bears much of the hallmarks of a cult. The Yelp algorithm is strange. I went home and felt a renewed sense of spirit. Wagner has always surrounded himself with yes men. This church sounds exhausting and prideful. Did You Know This Church Is Closely Aligned with 9 Marx (sic) While he was pastor at another church in Dallas he followed this same doctrine of sin and follower of Jesus Christ. After hearing Todds sermon, I left the building thinking pride comes before the fall will be evidenced in that man someday. So recent events are unsurprising to me. We've put together a list of some ways . This case was filed in Dallas County Texas Courts, Dallas County Texas Courts At Law located in Dallas, Texas. search clear. Not to gotcha, but I just want to set the record straight that the gift tax doesnt make it unrealistic that Todds family was gifted that house. Incorrect. He began to consider that he was in a cult. Theres no independent authority (like a congregational vote or a higher denominational officer) that can remove an elder in this government structure. if servant leadership plus Jesus Christ means anything, it logically using financial means to serve others. Kind of smarmy too. While God does allow humans to have free will, His greatest gift to every human is salvation and eternal life, through believing that He sent His son as a sacrifice for our sins. Let me guessthe PASTORS of this church DONT have to be real and disclose THEIR salaries, sins, struggles.right???? Gotcha. Im thankful you have experienced the controlling, entrapment, and triangulating side of WM. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Poor Todd. Todd loves and worships money and attention. We are talking about a CHURCH here, not the mafia. Appreciate your response! I am a former Watermark member. The Judge overseeing this case is TAPSCOTT, KEN. True humility is replaced with a very shallow and false one and so they humble brag about how big a crowd they can draw. Plan Your Visit Discover Watermark Membership Events Watermark News Articles Watermark en Espaol. Darren, I think I get where youre coming from with the idea of a teaching statement. I have no doubt there are many many more victims. Wagner is a bully. I covered this in my previous post, When Is a Church Member Fair Game, referencing a case of church discipline that Watermark carried out publicly against one of its members. It took a tremendous amount of courage for this person to come forward and tell their story, for fear of reactions like yours. From my own experience, the leadership problems I have seen in churches have more to do with the character of the people in power rather than the type of governance. The teaching statement wasnt explained to me in the membership process. Wagner is all about control and he lost it. i watched the video dont know how i got as far as i did i had to turn it off. Does God want everyone to be broke? Very humble of you. Came off as legalistic trolling. Im sorry Todd but Im praying for you and your family through this rough times. This is a quality and important post. My soul was touched. If you are going to judge Watermark, its leaders and programs, then I would encourage you to do so in the context of Scripture, especially the New Testament, including the gospels and the epistles that talk about church order, and yes, even discipline. Watermark's Church Contract God has allowed the clarity and conviction that we need, that I need, to serve well in this role to dry up, Wagner said. Andrew Bhatia Life Stage Care and Recovery Equipping Outreach Serve Community Groups. 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