Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but, Sgt. Whether the homicide location and the body disposal location are the same is unknown. But is just recently coming forward with the information, which is how the released sketch came to be. We got these LE sources from local sleuth JM. Although little is known about how the girls died, Abby and Libby were certainly victims of foul play. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never . Bryant uses a "facial identification reference sheet" that has a list of different categories, from head shapes to different eyebrows and noses. And by the way, you are banned, baby. Was the secret that one of them had found out she was pregnant? It is likely that all social media correspondence with the girls has been analyzed by the multi-agency task force. And I think that what must have happened is they have taken these leads, they have interviewed literally thousands of people. "Will this loop back around to another name that has come up in the past? As he looked up to see what it was, that is when he saw them, said Libbys grandma, Becky Patty. The quality and relevance of these footprints is unknown. The search on Bicycle Road might not mean much. Police revealed they believe their suspect may be hiding in plain sight. ", "That's what we're curious about," said ine. All of the material is referenced in terms of where it come from and how good of a source it is. At every crime scene, you are going to have DNA. Whether the released video and the released audio coincide in time is unknown but seems unlikely. The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. . There were kids there before them, there were kids there during, there were kids there after. - Mike Patty, Timestamp 13:41, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 16. Yes I am a member of the private group. The Monon High Bridge being rebuilt in 1915. The person will describe the suspect based on those categories. I would really like to get some input from you, since you have been doing one heckofa job. JBC is innocent of this crime. It was initially believed the sketch that has been in public view over the last two years of a person in the age range of his 40's to 50's was a person of interest in this murder investigation. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, to have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior that's about to occur. Perhaps Catfish Boy and Young BG are two different people. An official website of the United States government. I always thought it was child protective services until last year. Prosecutors accuse Allen of forcing the girls off of the trails east of the city near the Monon High Bridge. Judge Frances Gull opted to unseal the Richard Allen Probable Cause Affidavit, marking one of the first times documents related to the Delphi murders have been publicly released.. Journal and Courier article 1.2 M to Restore Monon High Bridge, 10. Just forget about him. Or the other idea I have aside from someone else walking the park that day is, the property owner. Mr, Robert Lindsay, I am really starting to believe that you and your research team might hold the key to solving this heinous crime. The crime was absolutely videotaped and photographed. I think a witness might assume early on that since law enforcement had a photo and video what more do they need. Like I said, idk. Richard Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. WLFI article Community continues to search for missing teens, 8. Two female members of the search party contacted team members separately with revelations about the crime. He said the notion of two killers is still in the arena. He also said, This has been an active theory since the first day of the crime.. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. I am also curious about the origin of the sketch. . They were chatting at a party recently, and the friend asked the investigator about the dolls rumor, specifically asking if there was one doll or more than one doll at the crime scene. Bullet found near 2 teen girls' bodies came from suspect and witness saw man wearing "muddy and bloody" clothes, affidavit says November 30, 2022 / 6:15 AM / CBS/AP Arrest made in murders of 2 girls Use tab to navigate through the menu items. During an emotional press conference announcing the arrest of Allen on Monday, Indiana State Police (ISP) Superintendent Doug Carter stressed that the investigation is "far from complete. Tietoja laitteestasi ja Internet-yhteydest (esimerkiksi IP-osoitteesi), Selaaminen ja hakutoiminnot Yahoon verkkosivustojen ja -sovellusten kytn aikana. Thanks for coming to the site. Indiana State Police Sgt. Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address:abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Accompanying each new sketch is an official description of the suspect. At the entrance of the trail? Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true. Im not sure if the second validated the dolls in trees. The first woman contacted two separate team members in addition to the first person, so shes told at least three separate people so far. During their own two-year investigation into the case, the couple has, in addition to Kline, found that police also once served a search warrant at the home of another local man, Ron Logan, in connection with the case. "It's concerning that it's a local guy," Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said Monday at a press conference. Anotherhaunting photowas posted by his wife onFacebookwhich shows the Indiana man smiling excitedly in front of what appears to be one of the two police composite sketches of the murder suspect. True Crime podcasts, which have exploded in popularity over the last decade, have been credited with impacting numerous other previously unsolved high-profile crime cases. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? Thank you, dear. If so, how did she find out? The bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were discovered the following afternoon, February 14, 2011 around noon near Deer Creek. I'm sooo thankful the witness came through. And this website wishes to honor that. DELPHI, Ind. WDRB article Families of teens, 20. Whether those are the same person is not yet known, but it is possible. [6], An article is published by WLFI which interviews Mike Patty who says The cellphone has been pinging around town and here there is a cellphone tower but the ping was last noted around five to six hours ago. Investigators searched Allen's home two weeks ago, with a focus on the property's fire pit, FOX 59 reported. He was a regular at JC's Bar and Grill, which has since been shuttered, where he liked to play pool, according to the Indy Star. The Delphi Murders On February 13th, 2017, two girls from small-town Delphi, Indiana decided to take a stroll along one of the region's historic trails. An Indiana man accused of killing two teenage girls in the infamous Delphi murder case was linked to the crime through an unspent bullet found at the scene, newly revealed documents show. "I think that is going to be very interesting to see going forward as we come closer to a possible trial," she went on. It is possible that a WLFI-18 reporter spoke to someone in law enforcement before or after the press conference in order to ascertain this. Suspect allegedly linked to Delphi murders reportedly in custody. Abigail Abby Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty Libby Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13, 2017. There is news via our LE source close to the investigation. And they have found someone who looks at that video that they released and says yes I definitely saw that guy minutes before the girls came by and I saw his face and that's where this sketch came from. "Thats what I guess was the biggest shock.". [18] C wrote on Facebook: I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. The offender approached them from the north western side moving south east towards them. Law enforcement has recovered DNA from the crime scene. I honestly think that all these people are connected, there were photos/video taken that day that made their way back to KAK who then passed them on via Dropbox to others. The picture was based on the description of a person who saw something that the person felt needed to be reported, according to Bryant. They released a second sketch of the suspect that looks entirely different than the one released in 2017. The Chief of Police in Delphi, Indiana (Brook L. McCain) received a telephone call regarding the murder case of child victims Abigail Williams and . Hopefully I will be able to talk to you someone with a brain, someone who is passionate about this case. One is a middle-aged woman in her 40s with kids who is otherwise completely normal, and the new one who has come forward is a different woman in her 30s. This was no accident. In this video taped interview, Holeman says: On February 23, 2017Sheriff Leazenby gives an interview and based on this interview some media outlets wrote articles such asthe one written by CBS-4 Indianastating: The following day,February 24, 2017, Sheriff Leazenby speaks to the press again to clarify his earlier statements. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. The person in the sketch released April 22ndis described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his 20s to late 30s. Online there are supposed text messages detailing the manner of how they were found allegedly sent bya family members ex boyfriend. Clearly someone who looked like him was both the Catfish Boy and was seen as a suspect at the crime scene, but perhaps it was not this young man. Here is the link if interested, http://www.wpta21.com/story/35903873/witness-aided-in-sketch-of-suspect-in-indiana-teens-deaths?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_ABC21_WPTA. Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? Jul 17, 2017 Updated Sep 28, 2017. It almost seems you could knock them up just by brushing up agains them. And for that, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. It sounds like they dont have enough to think this possible accomplice was actually involved, similar to the case against Mr. X. Hes just a situational molester and theyre no more attracted to kids than anyone else. Its unclear if he has yet retained an attorney. Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, had been where Libby and Abby were last seen alive. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" I think we expect more twists and turns and more unexpected developments who knows what lies ahead. Also, if he did cut her throat with one huge swing of a hatchet, it would have soaked BG in blood according to a search warrant from the FBI obtained. Turns out the brother of a team member is best friends with this high-ranking person. On Oct. 28, 2022, police confirmed Richard Allen was being held in connection to the killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Yes, the detective is great! Fox Nation host Nancy Grace joined 'Fox & Friends Weekend' to discuss the latest development in the investigation into the 2017 killings. However, a much better theory is that Mr. X used his stepsons photo as Young BG, the 19 year old Catfish Boy used to lure Libby to the trails that day. When confusion arose after the episode's release, the podcast responded through Facebook saying "That is what we have heard from our sources.". Thanks Remah! However, the Young BG sketch was the first sketch drawn in the case and was drawn off of eyewitness accounts. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. We also believe that this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits delphi at a regular basis or works here. There is a $250,000 reward for any information that leads to an arrest in the case. New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 14. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. I know we are on 2 different paths. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The bottom half was covered by the white scarf. yesterday, I think it's really interesting that the police guy who's talking accidentally uses the pronoun 'she' when referring to the witness, three times. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. [10]. And when they had found the shoe they had asked what kind of shoes the girls were wearing. This is why its so hard to get girls this age pregnant. Yes, a gun was used in the crime. ine said she and Kevin are both "curious" about Carter's comments and similar remarks made by Carroll County Prosecutor Nick McLeland, who stressed tip lines would be remaining open. 1 of 2. It would be wrong to assume that all items collected ended up being related to the case. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. Their bodies were found the following day in a wooded area a short distance from the Monon High Bridge Trail. I have a couple more theories I would like to discuss with you. Arent you the married woman from Montana who I was friends with a while back? That Mr. X will be arrested so soon? Market data provided by Factset. No, no CP was found at JBCs place. Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. Well, if it was a she, then it could have been another young woman who was approached by this man and got away because she saw him as suspicious. The sketch released on April 22ndis representative of the face of the person captured in the video on Liberty Germans cell phone as he was walking on the high bridge. A complication of this investigation is that because the trail area was being used as if it was a public space the evidence collected could easily be unrelated to the case. The sketches are not exact, Bryant said. Where was fsg such that he could see the arguing couple? "So who knows what lies ahead? The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nation's most heinous, unsolved murders.. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13 . And as you will see below, we actually have five confirmations of the dolls story, three from LE and two from searchers. The vehicle (unknown make or model) was parked at an old CPD/DCS building in Delphi. Missing Indiana girl found in basement; arrested suspect investigated in Delphi murders 04/28/2021 12:27 pm PDT Tippecanoe County. The man said he had not but that he had seen a couple on the bridge. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. Hello. It could be literally anything. He did not charge her, she said. If you assume that the path they took between the initial encounter sight and the disposal sight is relatively direct then the offender would have directed them off the trail and down the little hill to the north (with the Guys Down the Hill audio most likely referring to this). I do believe that the new developments in this case are pertinent and involve the early search on bicycle road in some way. I haven't been on in a awhile. Ive only known about this case since early last summer (2020). Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, is facing two counts of murder. Visitors Online 1,235 Visitors Online 1,235 Home. Though most have no idea of who Mr X is, it looks like you just said it in the replies. DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. When was this? Its very nice to ban you here today at my site! Published 2:05 AM PST Nov. 15, 2022 Updated 12:41 PM PST Nov. 29, 2022. On February 15, 2011, the Indiana State Police department released a still image of a man seen walking near the Monon High Bridge the same afternoon Abby and Libby were there. Great post. Arent you a member of the private group? He said there were so many dolls that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill and bought up a bunch of dolls. Precisely what evidence police yielded to establish enough probable cause to make the arrest remains unclear: all documents related to the matter have been placed under seal for the time being. [12] They later released two more stills from the video. I also didnt take the trail that leads to the right. The families of the victims have spoken about a man that Derrick ran into when he arrived at the trail at roughly 3:14pm. We consider some stuff confirmed as in reports from police, official documents, and search party members. On Facebook: I even walked all the way, you are going to have DNA city! 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