Its just like you would expect, but theres real, scientific proof for it now. SHIRES: Thats all you have to say? SHIRES: When I write songs, I go into it either with an idea to explore something, make sense of the world or my feelings, you know, all that. Opening with solemn piano chords, The Problem features Isbells voice first, then Shires joins, and the pair trade lines as they move the story along. He still cant seem to notice when the dishwashers unloaded and all the dishes are put away. GROSS: So that was the Highwomen, which is a song performed by the supergroup The Highwomen, which was co-founded by my guest, Amanda Shires, and Brandi Carlile. Video Playlist: Drive-By Truckers Play Pared-Down Southern Rock, You can still find those adventures if you surround yourself with the right people, Isbell tells Rolling Stone, sitting at a picnic table on the roof of the Port City Music Hall in Portland, Maine, where hell perform in a couple of hours, a few days after his Newport set. When we overturn Roe, we risk going back to, Oh, now same-sex marriages cant happen. SHIRES: I feel like its a little nasally, and I wish it was, like, a little bit lower. In 2016 I was going on the road. (Singing) Time was all Id want. Ive found and scrounged and continued to for every interview that hes done in any form and any language. And I am still alive. And I guess when we got to the third album sequence that I had, Jason was like, why isnt Fault Lines on there? My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. It was it took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi, and then it took Natalie and Maren Morris. And this is after some kind of nebulous argument. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. Editors picks And I dont know how I feel about that. SHIRES: And I think Sheryl Crow plays bass on that one. Shed been learning to play classical music on But one time, you know, not everybody could make a show. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. And in this certain period of time, there was a lot. And we had a TV that wed watch, you know, Saturday Night Live on Saturdays. JASON ISBELL: (Singing) What do you want to do? Shes not really a rock & roll kid, for lack of a better term. And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. During the #MeToo moment, much emphasis has been rightly placed on the need for women to guard themselves against the unrestrained appetites of male perpetrators. Im Terry Gross. It doesnt have to be Im Your Man. I just know that youve done that. Jason Isbell performs in Gulf Shores, Alabama. And I kept imagining, like, how I had nothing left to give and nothing I could do or say to make anything feel right, like, within me somehow. I guess for awhile youve been looking for the exit. Likewise, the changes underway to the Supreme Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg could also mean that abortion rights will come under fire nationally. I like to play pool, he says. Which would I rather have? See where your favorite artists and songs rank on the Rolling Stone Charts. Home to the Grand Ole Opry from 1943-1974, the Ryman earned the moniker \"Mother Church of Country Music\" as the genres of country and bluegrass developed on its stage and found a national audience on radio and television. The election is November 8. And any policing will disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks and other marginalized groups. GROSS: So how seriously were you taken by the musicians in the band? And so you know Ill say, I dont know, but no ones going to be asking me. Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Thank you for performing for us. But a lot of times when youre growing up and taught what how to be successful and how to be to survive in the world as a woman with a career and all this stuff and probably young many young kids are taught this. And when I would write these songs, it was never in my mind, oh, I have to record them. photos by @alyssegafkjen Tax ID: 26-2810489, Copyright 2022 Fresh Air. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. One is a Honduran asylum-seeker who died while trying to cross the border. Because once you have a baby, theres no social programming to help. How are we going to police that? In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. Every one of them except for me survived. And I told my mom to come over because I had something to show her. Do you need the reasons why? And Im coming for you like a hawk for the dove. And I know I can take it like a man. But I thought, what am I going to do about that in the event that she does go into country music? Shires new album, Take it Like a Man, includes several songs she wrote during a rough period in her marriage to musician Jason Isbell. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. And I also went to Greece and hung out at his house. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. Michael Schmelling. That one speaks to me. SHIRES: Oh, I would have had to find somebody to drive me to Mexico or somewhere else. And I know that he feels the same way I do. They do tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you a lot. He could still leave it dish in the sink, you know? After Isbell announced last week that he would require enhanced Covid countermeasures at his show in Austin, Texas, singer-songwriter Marc Broussard took to Twitter to lash out at Isbell, calling him bourgeois and elitist. Broussard asserted, Some working-class fans cant afford the risks associated with either the vaccines or even getting a test, adding, Id rather quit music than become a pawn in the pressure campaign. He did not provide any evidence of the risks he claimed were associated with getting the jab or receiving a test. The Truth About Amanda Shires And Jason Isbell - TheList.com Amanda Shires has become a coveted presence at the intersection of nervy artistry and activism, folk and country acclaim, rock attitude and Nashville influence. And I thought if Im going to get any rest, Im going to have to do something about this. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? I cant see a thing from here. This is FRESH AIR. Snubbing the King: Why Don't Big Stars Want to Perform at Charles' Coronation? I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. She has a big conscience, a big heart. Theyre just songs because everybody goes through troubles in their relationship. What does that phrase mean to you? Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. Or is this through listening to his records that you feel like youre his disciple? But it was true. GROSS: So we have to take another short break here, so let me reintroduce you. But this part of my life in our marriage was difficult. Being from Muscle Shoals is kind of like having a cool tattoo or something., After getting sober, writing and recording the new album felt more natural to me, says Isbell, lighting a cigarette as seagulls caw overhead. Bergen is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. AMANDA SHIRES AND JASON ISBELL: (Singing) Everythings going to be OK. Its going to be all right. They might not have had a voice before or might have been cast out into the streets without any place to sleep had they mentioned it earlier in their lives. I said, itd be cool if I was The Highwomen or maybe had a band The Highwomen. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van. And so I got to do that basically because I was willing to work in a group and play a part and do just that thing and show up on time. And I said, I dont know. We have Olivia Rodrigo and Phoebe Bridgers speaking up, and Ariana Grande. But if you dont, youre going to be wondering, What didnt I do? GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And so I felt in my mind, I felt those things. And that, to me, was incredible, because they had abortions in what was a pre-Roe v. Wade environment and theyre only now sharing their stories for the first time. And these guys are in their 70s and 80s, and it was very much like hanging out with lots of granddads. And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. People forget, Shires says. Shires plays fiddle in her husband Jason Isbells band, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer, musician Amanda Shires. GROSS: Oh, thats so funny. SHIRES: Thats well, see, Im accepting that it sounds like its supposed to now. Fellow singer/songwriter Aimee Mann tweeted well wishes to Isbell: Im so sorry. And she would dance a little bit to The Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. On forming the all-female country super-group The Highwomen. This is FRESH AIR. For those who are unfamiliar, it is impossible for an ectopic pregnancy to go to term. Shires started playing fiddle professionally when she was 15 with the band the Texas Playboys, which used to be led by Bob Wills, the father of Western Swing. And I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine. Theres a lot of things you do with your hands, but it struck me the most is matching the feeling of desperation or even begging. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. Shires character wrestles with the decision and the right thing to do in her situation, while Isbells character offers his support for whatever decision she makes. Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. GROSS: Was this your mothers father or your fathers father? Say whatever feels better or whatever. GROSS: Well, would you play Take It Like A Man for us? Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. The song is called Hawk For The Dove.. And I remember the first time I sang ever, Leon Rausch had to hold my hand. This happened to me two and a half weeks before Texas abortion ban went into effect. While Shires might not have set out to make an album that reminds us of the power of women pursuing their own impulses, desires and ambitions with abandon, that perspective enlivens this bracing 10-song set. You may opt-out by, U.S. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. I am Terry Gross. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. And here it sits. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time These really arent personal. And I got awarded a scholarship to be able to go to those. So lets hear a song about when things werent so all right. Im on your side. I mean, is it fatal for a woman if nothing is done? Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. Did you actually meet him? If you want a driver, climb inside or only want to take me for a ride, you know you can. And I was thinking about how much the stories matter. It just seemed like the right thing to do because I dont want to spend my time on stage worried about if Im making people sick.. I want Garth Brooks out there telling people that womens health is a priority. In 2017, for her solo work, she was named emerging artist of the year at the Americana Music & Honors Awards ceremony. And Empty Cups wasnt even the hardest one for me to put on there. And Lanny Fiel, he would say, youre really, really great at the parts you love. ", Shires and Isbell have a toddler daughter together, and thanks to gendered assumptions about the distribution of their parenting duties, Shires has fielded more than her share of questions about how she balances motherhood and music-making. So did you ever visit her at work? "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. And he married my grandmother. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. SHIRES: (Singing) Im scared to even say the truth. But whatever. SHIRES: In 2016, I was going on the road. And (laughter) I, like, played the part. The former Drive-By Truckers newfound sobriety, a recurring topic of discussion (and of his exceptional songwriting), may have cost him some of his sense of adventure, but it has undoubtedly focused his attention on his craft. Are they just going to sit around and drink beer? And sometimes, you know, you can, like, cup your hands and drink water from them or you could cup your hands and I dont know. SHIRES: Ive listened to all of his records. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. Is there a song that youd like to do? However, you can still listen with the Spotify or Apple Music playlist at the bottom of the page. Subscribe: http://bit.ly/1lq9aEQTour the Ryman: http://bit.ly/tourtherymanVisit the Ryman Calendar: http://bit.ly/rymanconcertsAbout the Ryman Auditorium:Established in 1982 as the Union Gospel Tabernacle and renamed for the visionary who constructed it, Captain Tom G. Ryman, the Ryman Auditorium is a National Historic Landmark and cultural epicenter of Nashville, TN. Thats what I want. SHIRES: Sure. Wherever you get that support whether in a relationship or friends no matter what you believe, you can believe to support somebody through something hard.. You had an abortion. Will you look at me the same? When we left off, we were talking about when Shires was 15 and started playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys, which used to be Bob Wills band. Im so glad you wrote it. Grammy Award-winning songwriter Amanda Shires and bestselling author George Saunders discuss inspiration, songwriting, and Amanda's new song, "You Don't Get to Go." And Tommy said, if you can hold down that lower third harmony and Id love to, you know, have that spot filled. The Mandalorian Season Three Gets Off to a Disappointing Start In 2016 there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. You can say its all my fault. Where the fuck are the rest of them? And all I could think to say/Was everythings going to be OK/Its gonna be all right/Im on your side, he sings. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. SHIRES: We were writing that, and Brandi was like, Im going to take the first one. Like, do you say, hey, honey, heres a song I wrote about how bad things are between us right now? And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. If you share your story or share your beliefs, youre going to get some haters and trolls. Were you just, like, the cute kid who could play but, you know that audiences would go wild over because you were a girl in the band and there wasnt much of that? How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? I didnt start learning how to accept my voice until recently. 'Mandalorian' star Pedro Pascal, creators on new Grogu revelations and 'Last of Us' comparisons, Saved by the bell: Contestant ordered to keep mask on, in historic 'Masked Singer' first, Chris Pine admits 'it does look' like Harry Styles spit on him but this is what actually happened, Rebel Wilson 'collapsed' after Ramona Agruma proposal: 'I was so overwhelmed', Amy Grant recalls being 'so scared' to return to touring following serious bike accident. After recording and touring for several years with the Drive-By Truckers, for whom he wrote standouts including Decoration Day, Outfit and Danko/Manuel, Isbell launched his solo career in 2007. GROSS: Oh, yeah. With artists and concert promoters nationwide forced to confront a surging spike in infections and hospitalizations attributed to the spread of the delta variant, ISBELL: (Singing) Im on your side. Theres still just as much awe.. And thank you so much for having me as a guest. Well, why dont you sing some of it for us? And then I asked Chance, and Chance was like, no, those are real documents. Well be right back. Since writing that op-ed, I have had reproductive healthcare that some might call an abortion when I was hospitalized in Texas on August 9, 2021, with a ruptured fallopian tube caused by an ectopic pregnancy. Because thats not how I go into songwriting. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. It is not trapped in your throat. So I couldnt really get into it. Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. Thank you for doing the interview. But anyway so I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering. Along As they talked, What didnt I say that could have helped change one mind? I cant live with the idea of not speaking up. Why was that the verse that you wrote or sang for yourself? But I just got up on a stage and took the fiddle and started playing it. Where does that get us with our Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights? SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. On August 9, 2021 Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires perform at Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. / And the fear that I feel when I see my features reversed in my own daughter's face." SHIRES: (Singing) Im well aware of what the nights made of. Interracial marriages cant happen. Privacy rights are going to be gone. Long before weathering the isolating COVID-19 pandemic, Shires had endured years of studio experiences where producers and musicians undermined her Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell depict a couple having an honest, difficult conversation about abortion in the new song The Problem.. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. Tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you lot. 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