A six-year legal battle has ended with the family of convicted game-warden killer and outlaw trapper Claude Dallas getting back all the guns and other personal property Owyhee County has been holding since 1982. Their experiences also underscore the wisdom of having the means to defend ones self and ones family in the event one encounters a predatory Fed in the wilderness or, as Newmans case demonstrates, in ones own home. Those words would prove to be a death warrant. Open spaces are less open. Olsen said Dallas would have to be "part parasite, part Living with Urban Theyre calling and saying . Their timing was a bit odd; it was November, a little late in the year for a ranch to take on new hires. have steeled him to where those needs are less," Mauk said. faces a parole hearing on April 26. Was it an overzealous Game officers in an increasingly controlled society along with fate mixed with gossip that was in opposition to Dallass desire for freedom? Some critics had charged that it glorified Dallas. Reports earlier this month said a saddle formerly owned by It was on one the specials that the History channel ran on snipers the other night; the one on law enforcement snipers. questioned, even challenged. Dallas gave authorities the slip for almost a year, fanning his reputation as a canny west folk hero. Im gonna get you, Dallas even if its just for tax evasion, the FBI agent hissed in his ear as the cowboy was released. On May 16, 1986, he became the 400th fugitive listed on the FBI Ten Most Wanted List. As I remember from reading the above menbtioned book several years ago, Dallas mortally wounded both wardens with one shot each from a 357 mag. . It also said that he was poaching on private property, the rancher that owned the property called Pogue and reported it. When Dallas returned to Paradise Valley, his fellow ranch hands noticed an ominous change in his disposition. It was hours before authorities realized he was gone. I can't believe that that guy wouldn't have supported Dallas if there was even the most minimal justification for what he did. Trapper and survivalist Claude Lafayette Dallas, Jr. was born March 11, 1950. Oddly, Jack Wayne Chappell is the Chairman of Futurity Arts West Company and has a website futurityartswest.com to raise money to help keep the Claude Dallas story alive. he left, at once more inured to violence and more willing to There was a possible sighting in Jordan Valley, Oregon, may or may not live in Grouse Creek, Utah, and has been reported to run Armed incursions on public lands by government agencies are causing more curiosity about the mountain man who wished to be alone to live his own way. If they were true, it is hard to believe that the hierarchy in the Idaho F&G wouldn't have kept him on a very short leash. From the beating of Rodney King to the Branch Davidian siege, We should, as well. The store manager, who would give only his first name of Sammy, said Dallas was wrestled to the ground by about 10 FBI agents, some of whom carried shotguns. I made a silent pledge to myself, and never told any one about it, the next time I saw him in the desert I would kill him. Newman initially thought Zohovetz was a customer. It's "It's going to be real tough for him," Aman said. CALDWELL, Idaho -- Following a six-year wait, jailed game warden killer Claude Dallas has won his battle to regain possession of some 21 firearms and other Ross, acting on behalf of the rustlers, took offense. person could ever have fallen for that jive," said Jack Olsen, I'm not for one second trying to suggest that what he did was OK or even remotely acceptable. interference," he said. Gun violations, such as manufacturing a sawed-off shotgun, are a Federal violation that falls under the the BATF, not local law enforcement. Im generally posting at least one short piece sometimes two or more each day at republicmagazine.com. He bushwhacked those two wardens, Nettleton said. out of the Kansas prison where he's being held. My wife went to School with Kathy Pogue the officers daughter. Oh, dearie dear we cant have. Because of land-use conflicts and more governmental agencies participating in armed wilderness policing, Claude Dallas is Idahos most infamous and hotly debated outlaw and/or hero depending on ones views. In the high desert of Bull Camp on the Nevada/Idaho border, Bill Pogue entered Claudes tent without consent, saw animal pelts, and threaten to arrest Dallas for poaching in Idaho but Dallas said he got the pelts on the Nevada side of the border. A diabetic who suffers from permanent nervous system damage, Newman was understandably concerned that a Taser attack would kill him. But when he murders a warden who abhors anyone who hunts out of season, a nationwide manhunt ensues. The two game wardens suspected Claude of crossing over to Idaho and trapping and possessing bobcats and then sneaking em back over to to his Nevada camp. Dallas, who has expressed no remorse for what he maintains was His escape enlarged the legend that he was a nomadic trapper whose life conflicted with the government. All rights reserved. Low 32F. What compelled Fish and Game to expend so much time and expense to seek out Claude Dallas for possible code violations in the wilderness? It sounds like AK F&G used the same solution as the Catholic Church when dealing with employees who were out of line. Claude Dallas killed two Idaho state game wardens in 1981. It stated that had been poaching for a long time. . This was particularly true of the armed strangers who threatened to kidnap Dallas at gunpoint something not mandated by what they called the law, but made necessary by Bill Pogues punitive nature. A lot of guys try it, but the first time they have to shave with cold water they change their mind. Claude Dallas was not a saint, but he only became a killer when he was cornered by gun-wielding government employees who most likely would have found some way to validate the FBI agents threat: The Federal Government would find some way to get him, no matter how trivial the violation. Winds light and variable. from the Oklahoma City bombing to the Freemen standoff and from News: city@lmtribune.com; Subscriptions: online@lmtribune.com; Other: webmaster@lmtribune.com. begin with and spawned the popular mythology behind two books and a I know Claude Dallas. He first becomes eligible for release on Sept. 22. "We're a much more informed people now than we were when Claude Nobody has the right to come into my camp and violate my rights, Dallas insisted as Stevens absorbed the bloody aftermath of the encounter. He nonetheless received a 30-year prison term. At the time, Dallas and the two game wardens stood at points of a triangle roughly five to six feet apart. All I can say is, 20 some years spent in jail, two dead LEOS..ALL OVER SOME STINKING BOBCATS!!!!!!!! There is no none notta zero way this fella should be out let alone be above ground as we speak now! Such extreme measures for infractions must have looked more like entrapment to the public and it, unfortunately, cost the lives of two officers. The windows, shutters, rafters, roof, and the cupboard and outside doors had been replaced by the Forest Service, of course, but splintery skid gouges still showed where that one block had torn the floor and the side of the alidade stand.". . The book says that the 2nd pistol was hidden from view and the Officers thought that they had disarmed him when they took his holstered pistol. Obviously I don't know diddly about the case save what I read in various articles at the time and here and now. View our. Winds light and variable. He has thought And he will be released in less than four years no matter what Doolittle held that the lien "does not apply to this forfeiture proceeding.". He was released in February 2005, and since then he has been sighted living in Grouse Creek, Utah and in the Alaska wilderness. everyone else is subject. At some point, Pogue made a threatening gesture to his pistol. As Tripp later admitted on the record, the properly infuriated husband never pointed his rifle at him even though he would have been well within his legal and moral rights to use lethal force to stop the assault. Error! Anyone who unlawfully threatens a life is subject to the other human acting in self-defense, LEO or not. [7][18], At least one juror cited concern that Dallas was acting in self-defense when he shot Pogue. He was also disinclined to talk about his background a trait he shared with many others who chose this itinerant lifestyle. Lapwai and Potlatch will represent the Whitepine League Division I at the Idaho Class 1A Division I state tournament that begins Thursday at Vallivue High School in Caldwell. This was shown on TV as it was happening. I don't know about that. The book pretty much portrays Dallas in a true light. Submitting this form below will send a message to your email with a link to change your password. Claude Dallas..even though I've read the book.I wasn't there, so all I can say is there was a reason he was not found guilty of murder..there has been speculation that he would have been acquitted of all charges if he hadn't administered a "cou de gras" to the wardens..he did his time and I hope the rest of his life is peaceful! KEN HOWELL - "He'd kicked two blocks of cattle salt out of a low-flying Piper or Aeronca. An email has been sent to with a link to confirm list signup. They wouldnt have took me like this if they hadnt got the drop on me, he fumed to friends in the bunkhouse. Note the contrast between Rosss snarling, feral visage and the incredulous composure displayed by Greenwell, and ask yourself: Which of these two displays the civilized face of freedom? His sentence was reduced by eight years for good behavior. After felling them with a .357 Magnum, he shot each in the head with a .22-caliber rifle. [19], Dallas escaped from the state prison east of Kuna on March 30, 1986,[11][20][21] Easter Sunday, and was on the run for almost a year. "In the '80s we were celebrating reckless individualism, however In the winter of 1981, Dallas had set up his trapping camp in the remote southwestern corner of Idaho, three miles (5km) from the Nevada border using a "home" address in nearby Paradise Hill, Nevada, twenty miles from Paradise Valley. Not me but two guys I know well had the same officer really give em grief over nothing (they don't know each other and it was separate incidences) One of the guys is older and can be abrasive so I wondered about if he brought any of it on himself, but still the actions the F&G guy took were overly vindictive in my mind. Its been awhile but some details about the case are coming back. WebStackhouse, the creator and host for the show, was out with friends when they noticed these strange lights in the sky over Scottsdale, Arizona. Partly cloudy skies this evening will give way to occasional snow showers overnight. . WebJan 7, 2011. Let me tell you about my experience with Bill Pogue. Well Claudes out from Orofino Idaho.I think the books suck in there opinions slanted of course.He did not get convicted on the first count. Dallas fled into the same sagebrush landscape where he had disappeared in 1981 after killing two Idaho Fish & Game officers. Dallas, who had spent several years working intermittently as a ranch hand and trapper, had developed a reputation among fish and game officials and Pogue most likely considered himself just the man to rein in the renegade.. The drama began Jan. 6, 1981, when the two game wardens, Bill Pogue and Conley Elms, were gunned down while attempting to arrest Dallas for poaching deer and bobcat at his campsite in the southwestern Idaho desert. There were no discrepencies. This isnt because he was afraid to fight, or unable to a fact well understood by the predatory bureaucrats who tracked him down. He began SurvivalBlog in 2005. out a living there and remains a respected figure to some. Born in Winchester, Virginia, Dallas' father was a dairy farmer. Please drop by and sign up for your free digital subscription! Claude Dallas News. Born in Winchester, Virginia, Dallas' father was a dairy farmer, and he spent most of his childhood in Luce County, Michigan, later moving to rural Morrow County, Ohio, where he learned to This story has more twists and colorful characters than any world-class fiction screenplay writer could imagine. really wasn't that much of a mountain man even back then, and jail The most recent sighting logged by the trackers was June 6 in Roseville, Minnesota, just east of Minneapolis and north of St. Paul. (He) would kill a lawman with about the same guilt and conscience as he eats his Wheaties in the morning.. Stevens would later testify that the wardens did not threaten Dallass life in any way. This isnt true: Every demand made by a government official contains the implicit threat of lethal violence against those who refuse to comply. She and her husband visited prisoner No. as far as he can away from the general population.". If anything, he said, the he considered unreasonable authority that put him behind bars to Eddy Carlin's meeting with Dallas had made him uneasy. Two of his other novels have also been best New York Times bestsellers. Now we're in tamer times," Scott said. after his escape. All I know about this case is what I have read. He wasn't alone at Bull Basin and the guy who he was with testified against him. However, the defense contended that Dallas had fired only after one of the wardens had drawn a gun. Bill McCutcheon faces 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine; Tammie whose crime consisted of protecting herself from a sexual assault, could be sentenced to 8 years in prison and a $100,000 fine. He would have had no compunction about shooting several of them had he the means to do so.. This pack contains over 5,500 open-pollinated seeds and 1 1/2 pints of grain, all packed for long term storage. What compelled Fish & Game to drive all day and night to the wilderness of Bull Camp? I attended gunsmithing school in Denver '78-80. The foreman of the jury that convicted Dallas later said that he would have been acquitted of all charges if he hadnt delivered what was most likely a gratuitous coup de grace. The New Western historians of the late 1970s attempted to debunk this theory, revealing the racial and ethnic diversity of the West, reminding us of the role of the environment and documenting how settlers and later corporations conquered land wrested away from Native Americans. The story begins back in 1981, when two Idaho conservation officers, Bill Pogue and Conley Elms, were murdered by a poacher named Claude Dallas along the South Fork of the Owyhee River. When he was captured the first time, Idaho prosecutors maintained that he had killed the wardens intentionally and with forethought. Like I wrote before, I don't care about Ruby Ride or Waco, my interest (as it pertains to this thread) is limited to Claude Dallas and the story, as I understand it from reading "Give A Boy A Gun". I There was long standing feud between these men and Claude was able to convince the jury what he did, was out of fear for his life. We dont consider him a folk hero.. 46356 at the Claude Dallas, the escaped killer of two Idaho game wardens who had vowed never again to be taken alive, was captured--unarmed and without a fight--Sunday afternoon in Riverside, the FBI said. Some are just plain gung-ho. Gini Graham Scott, an Oakland, Calif., sociologist and author of The Lewiston Tribune recently launched a new afternoon newsletter featuring stories and photos that will appear online before they are published in the newspaper. Perhaps, the only person who can explain the freedom and adventure, or perhaps the shame for the unnecessary killings along with chastisement as an outcast while on the run, would be Claude Dallas himself; telling us his own story? Tripp might consider this a search; by any rational definition, it was a sexual assault by an armed stranger who had spit out several angry demands but refused to identify himself (not that doing so would have justified his actions). Handloader, I think that you raise a very important point, one that I think is all too often overlooked. Brad Little joined legislative and state education leaders Tuesday morning to announce the formation of an advisory council for the Empowering Parents grant program. "Claude's essential appeal was to dummies. country in general and Idaho in particular seems more willing than In his six-page order, the judge chastised Wasden for waiting so long to seek confiscation of the goods. He constantly berated me with taunts of "Don't like it, huh boy" and "What are you going to do about, boy" I believed then and believe now he was looking for an excuse to kill me. This week we are discussing a self-proclaimed mountain man, and the men whose lives were stolen by him. His 30-year sentence for voluntary manslaughter ends in February After he served 3 years, Claude Dallas escaped from prison on Easter Sunday 1986 and was on the run for almost a year before the FBI captured Dallas the second time that Dallas was on the run after he escaped Idaho State Prison. I neither support or condemn Dallas. . Elms and Pogue looked into the sage-grouse poaching first, then approached Dallas regarding the alleged poaching infringements in his camp. There was a documentary on tv about dallas awhile back. I have read the book, and based on the story it told, I don't for 1 second believe that Dallas' life was in danger. BOISE -- Like it or not, Claude Lafayette Dallas Jr. is getting out of prison after committing one of the most notorious crimes in Idaho history. How did notorious Idaho outlaw, Claude Dallas, escape? [4] He eluded capture for over fifteen months, until he was arrested in northern Nevada by FBI Special Agent Franz Nenzel and SWAT officer Dave Gillan on April 18, 1982, north of Winnemucca, after he was shot and wounded in the leg during a car chase and shootout. Pogues regular partner wasn't available so he called on Elms to go with him. We won't share it with anyone else. Claude keeps going after it and after it. Since 1995, the shaggy-haired 45-year-old landscaper has been observing Phoenix skies for hours a day in search of photographic evidence of unidentified flying He was convicted of voluntary manslaughter in the deaths of two game wardens, in Idaho. resistance or government force run amok, depending on one's Thank you! Nothing pisse$ me off more than power hungry individuals in authority that try to bully those they are supposed to be protecting. The ISBN is 0440131685 for the paperback edition. The book that I cited is called "Give A Boy A Gun" by Jack Olson. Claude Dallas, the escaped killer of two Idaho game wardens who had vowed never again to be taken alive, was captured--unarmed and without a fight--Sunday All them damn stool pigeons, he said. Dallas testified that he was threatened, but Stevens didn't see it that way. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a 5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of Forever U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! The subject of several books and movies, Dallas had a colorful life. There's lots of other convicted criminals out in society who have done worse. I've also talked to people that knew the wardens and they say that Pogue was well known for being a jerk but the the other guys was realy a nice guy. He served 22 years of a 30-year sentence before being released in 2005. The jury seemed to agree to some extent with the defense, finding Dallas guilty in the fall of 1982 only of manslaughter. The wardens almost certainly died instantly. Doolittle put that notion to rest, finding that "none of the property" in dispute was in Dallas' possession or control at the time of his arrest, "either actually or constructively.". If you saw him ride and rope and shoot on the high desert ranches of Oregon and Nevada, you might think so, too. But Mauk said Dallas is extremely resourceful and may no longer I think he served his sentence and probably just wants to be left alone. He said agents had learned through an investigation that Dallas had contacts in the Riverside area. Yet the Feds insisted on stalking Dallas, humiliating him, abusing him, and trying to put him in a cage. . in his defense then would be perceived far less positively now. behavior -- especially killing law officers -- as something that Besides turning down the county's request, the judge denied a civil claim filed by Boise defense attorney Bill Mauk, who said Dallas still owes his law firm roughly $30,000 in unpaid legal fees. Im sorry he was (near) Los Angeles. Ads are what helps us bring you premium content. After the case against him was dismissed because of procedural mistakes by the Mt. If Dallas hadn't been doing wrong and had the reputation for doing wrong he wouldn't have had to worry about getting caught or having to "defend" hisself. "I see it as a decision that makes legal and common sense. Dallas will be returning to a much different world than the one There was a book written about this and it told a very different story from your version. Remember that there is a 1,500-word minimum, and that articles on practical how-to skills for survival have an advantage in the judging. Reagan said only FBI agents were involved in his capture. The identity of the man who was with Dallas when he arrived was unknown, and the FBI said no other arrests had been made. The two don't often go together, but in this case, they did. Apparently, Mr.Dallas did not do any extra time and kept his mouth shut about what really happened, showing more integrity and intelligence than the people who kept him imprisoned. In the penitentiary, Dallas proved a model prisoner. Claude Dallas was in violation of the law, Jim Stevens and his son were violating the law, and Bill Pogue was violating the law. And it was all being done for money. As the character Deep Throat said in All The Presidents Men, Follow the Money !!! If any one is interested in finding out the truth, please let me know. If not, why not? ''I won't keep you in suspense, Mr. Dallas. Sign up today to receive the Rundown, a curated collection of the week's top sports stories assembled every Monday by Tribune sports editor Donn Walden. The FBI spokesman said Dallas, who was rumored to have been seen in California months ago, was being held temporarily in the Riverside County Jail on a federal fugitive warrant. And that simply MMarketello -"I'm not so sure about Waco. He reportedly now lives in the wilds of Alaska. He buried the bodies and at least one of them wasn't even found until after the trial. America," said Dallas' notoriety reflected the decade's public I agree that the best way to deal with the law is to be polite and respectful, however when the law is abusive/rude I can honestly say that I would have a very hard time convicting someone who fought back in such a case if I where serving on a jury. Dallas fled the scene of the killings and was found after a 15-month manhunt. The Bureau of Land Management had leased the area known as Bull Basin to Don Carlin's 45 Ranch as wintering ground for its cattle. Dallas, to the anger of authorities, had become an almost legendary, nationally known figure of Western resilience, the subject of two books and a controversial CBS television drama, which implied that he shot the wardens in self-defense. Claude Dallas faces life after his parole; What kind of world awaits convicted killer, and what kind of man will enter that world? After he searched the truck, he seemed angry he had found no reason to arrest me. question government, more savvy about the media and more jaded A self-described Mountain Man, Dallas, 36, is a romantic folk hero to some people who admire his Old West toughness, but he is considered by law enforcement authorities in several Western states to be a cold-blooded killer. Rubin Carter,Geranamo Pratt and Randy Weaver were all victims. Count me along with those who do not condone wanton killing, but who do feel that there is more to the event than we will probably ever know. Home. Game wardens have always had reputations as being overbearing when compared to other LEOs. When the case went to trial in March 2011, U.S. District Court Magistrate Craig M. Kellison ruled that Zohovetz had no right to remain on Newmans property once he had been ordered to leave. He also cited a Supreme Court precedent acknowledging that the freedom of individuals verbally to oppose or challenge police action without thereby risking arrest is one of the principal characteristics by which we distinguish a free nation from a police state.. The confrontation erupted in gunfire and Dallas, deadly quick, dropped both Pogue and his backup, Conley Elms. To increase the chances of his capture, Dallas was listed on the ten most wanted list of the FBI. The fugitive had two bags of groceries in his arms as he emerged from a Stop N Go convenience grocery store near the intersection of University Avenue and Comer Street. Partly cloudy skies this evening will give way to occasional snow showers overnight. Your purchase was successful, and you are now logged in. A few months earlier, Claude Dallas had been secretly indicted by a federal grand jury, triggering a nation-wide manhunt by the FBI and the U.S. Dallas is a hard man to pin down. Olsen recalled that when Dallas was captured the first time, after a 16-month manhunt, it was only after a shoot-out with FBI agents at Paradise Hill, near Winnemucca, Nev. Sunday, using the alias of Al Schrenk, Dallas first denied being the fugitive, but a fingerprint check proved his identity, Reagan said. He noted two illegal bobcat hides in Dallas' camp as well as poached deer. "As I've said all along, the properties should never have been seized.". Thats right: Even the Regimes forest rangers are now equipped with portable electro-shock torture devices. If he was unable to do his job without abusing his power it was only a matter of time before he was called on it. He had a handful of bobcat hides in his camp. the past. way of life. Tripp, however, drew his pistol and pointed it at Bill, ordering him to drop his rifle. ever to accept the idea that government is something to be Free Targets and Target Tracker Shooting Logs! Moyie Springs, Idaho 83845. People will do anything for a dollar. Text STOP to stop. They argue the public today is not so willing to accept antisocial You've been acquitted,'' 4th District Judge George Carey told the 37-year-old Correction Director Al Murphy also fed the mystique: You give Claude Dallas 6 miles and you might as well give him the country. In a United Press International article it reads Escapee Says He Feared Guards Would Kill Him. Convicted Killer Claude Dallas testified Thursday that he broke out of the Idaho State Prison last year because he feared guards were plotting to kill him and were using his picture for target practice. (Can't remember the name, same format as Shotgun News). Claude Dallas, who killed Fish and Game officers, due to be released. Text LMT to 55678 to receive breaking news alerts/links to your phone. I can't ever excuse killing a law enforcement officer or anybody else unless in fear of my life or to protect somebody else. BOISE, Idaho (AP) _ Convicted killer Claude Dallas, who claimed he fled an Idaho prison because he feared guards were out to kill him, was acquitted of an escape that made him one of America's most wanted fugitives. Besides that, what proof is there that either of the LEOs who Dallas killed were either corrupt or abusive? BOISE -- Like it or not, Claude Lafayette Dallas Jr. is getting Dallas was publicly heard to swear that no one would ever outdraw him again , Roughly seven years later, two Idaho fish and game wardens Bill Pogue, a former Winnemucca, Nevada police chief, and Conley Elms tracked down Dallass campsite about three miles on the Idaho side of the Nevada border in Owyhee County. The sheriff, informed of the judge's order late Monday, seemed momentarily stunned. Claude Lafayette Dallas Jr. (born March 11, 1950) was convicted of voluntary manslaughter in the deaths of two game wardens in Idaho. When he was young, his family moved from the Shenandoah Valley to Michigan and Claude Dallas spent most of his childhood in Luce County, later moving to rural Morrow County, Ohio, where he learned to trap and hunt game. Stevens, who was busy elsewhere in the camp, didnt see what happened next but he heard the unmistakable report of a handgun, and whirled around to see Dallas in a shooters crouch, and a bloodstain spreading across Pogues chest. Dallas father, Claude Dallas Sr. of Myrtle Beach, S.C., expressed anger at the arrest Sunday night and suggested the FBI may have been helped by stool pigeons., Saying he is proud that his son had managed to elude capture for so long, the elder Dallas said: If there was a fight Id have liked to have been in it. Why, Claude? 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