Thanks for stepping in, Sac. This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. They made several matching that description, but the most common I see are the 8" G46-8 or L46-8. But without more evidence to support them the above examples are my recommendation at this time. I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. by Colonel26 Wed May 02, 2018 10:54 am, Post The facts are that the last two years of the war The U.S. was not sending in much of anything into the country as far as manpower and equipment. Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it seemed like the right place to add this. I have a long list of knives I kick myself for not buying. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. $21.96, $31.38 (45% off), Sale Price 3,386,453 The seller might still be able to personalize your item. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife $29.99 Gil Hibben Assault Tactical Knife With Sheath $77.99 Gil Hibben Highlander Bowie Damascus with Sheath $169.99 $116.98! Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. (See picture) Without taking the grips off there is no way to tell if it was a factory job or post purchase. This is the Western Bowie USA knife and the scarce Vietnam era 2nd variation, this tang stamp was produced circa 1966-1968. Original Price 9,852,217 I have never found any reference to Western chroming their knives. If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. There is another subset of the W49 knives what I term . The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. I would stay away from those not marked "BOWIE" on the blade or cross guard. 1,516,995, 2,758,374 Value for money . It's easy! sp 8 weighs a ton, if I wanted a field piece I would take the w49 over it ant day of the week. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Vintage 14 1/2" Western W49 Bowie Knife with Sheath. But I believe I can give you some good advice. I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. 1,896,552, 3,448,276 Powered by Invision Community. Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. Original Price 9,359,606 Great 'package'. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. This knife has a stock number of S-649. (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 A naive question, most probably - but, was this chroming ever done in-country? I still havent actually put my hands on one of the W49s with the chrome plating. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. I carry it with me on all my excursions. (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 (50% off), Sale Price 1,666,256 Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week It should show jungle use. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Thanks zzyzzogeton! Original Price 1,206,897 Under Add your personalization, the text box will tell you what the seller needs to know. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. I think the pre-Coleman ones - at least some of them - had real Cocobolo handles rather than laminated wood scales. Thanks for all the information! I Ship Worldwide. : Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984, SPRING HILL CUTLERY (eBay: bargainseller02), Western Boulder, Colo. Cracked Ice Knife & Hatch Set 1935 to 1950, VINTAGE WESTERN R16 USA M FIXED BLADE HUNTING SKINNING BOWIE SURVIVAL KNIFE KNIVES OLD SHEATH, VINTAGE WESTERN 742 STOCKMAN JACK PEN FOLDING POCKET KNIFE KNIVES OLD ANTIQUE, VINTAGE 1983 WESTERN USA W77 G FIXED BLADE COMBAT FIGHTING DIRK DAGGER BOOT KNIFE KNIVES OLD, Vintage MINT Westmark 701 hunting knife and original leather sheath, WESTER CUTLERY CO. GERMANY 2 1/2" 2 BLADE PEARL CONGRESS LIKE NEW, Western Cutlery Germany Bone Congress Knife, WESTERN USA, W36 Fixed Blade Knife and Sheath. There were variations of this pattern that were incorporated into air crew survival kits. Never sharpened, carried, or cleaned. For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. i don't need to use it too much. (45% off), Sale Price 2,422,280 You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. I have two of them. The letters A through O can be seen on their knives depending upon the year of manufacture during the years '77 to '91. 1,666,256, 3,029,557 No the one I have is chrome plated. They are the older high carbon blades. Good news! Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. We also created 2.6 million jobs in the U.S.enough to employ the entire city of Houston, TX! They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the . 2,807,882, 9,359,606 The W49s did leave the factory with a high polish on them. 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. So their history is rather murky, to say the least. It was thrown in the dirt by a local maker. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:03 pm, Post Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. Heres my question. Original Price $185.00 Western Outlaw Bowie Knife by Timber Rattler It is 17 inches long and is almost 0.5 inches wide. Looking for a real knife? Original Price 1,243,264 I was surprised by the thinness of the spine. $299.99 eBay SUPER RARE KABAR HOBO PERFECT HANDLES KNIFE, FORK, SPOON 1923 TO 1037 $875.00 eBay Case XX USA 10 Dot 1970 5254 Trapper Genuine Stag Handles Unused N Mint Specks $345.00 eBay RARE VINTAGE CASE XX REDBONE SCOUT UTILITY KNIFE 6445 R 1940-64 "NICE!!! 3,047,783, 4,063,793 Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. (15% off), Sale Price 2,733,744 I have been trying for some time to compile dating info and as you probably know there are some gray areas. The stamping is only on the Brass guard and there are no letters denoting age. Original Price 2,216,502 Dont see this option? Well used and somewhat pitted since I got them used. 1978 was "B" and so on. 1,435,714, 2,610,345 See the top reviewed local furniture stores and showrooms in Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy on Houzz. Description. Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. I have always thought that the Western Bowie with the bigger handle bolts, thick handle, W49 guard marks and ringed sheath was post Vietnam but then came across this on ebay. The marking are very important. $123.74, $164.99 Now I see them going for very good money. I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. 4,173,623, 8,347,245 You never want to tell a Ranger he can't make a knife. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". (10% off), Sale Price $22.40 Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline . Measures 15 inches long. Yes! My knife has an abbreviated guard that was done by a previous owner and is currently semi-Bagwellized. Sign up for a new account in our community. Boker 1969 Z28-Damast Liner Lock Knife Blue Aluminum (3.15" Damascus) MSRP: $594.95 Our Price: $446.21 Preorder Down Payment: $5.00 Add to Cart Vargo Knives Sobata 398 Frame Lock Knife Titanium (3" Satin Sintered Ti) Our Price: $225.00 Add to Cart Jake Hoback Perseverance Fixed Blade Knife Black G-10 (6.1" Stonewash) Our Price: $365.00 Add to Cart You'll feel like an O Timber Rattler Whispering Winds Bowie Knife 19.98 Timber Rattler captures the beauty of the southwest with this handsome Whispering Winds bowie knife. In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . Large WW11 Fighting knife with maker mark. He designed it as a hunting knife and gave it to James for protection after his brother had been shot in a fight. In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. Great! See the full list: Hotels near Worlds Largest Bowie Knife. One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. Thanks GIRLYmann! It could have been a special order as there were Western Bowies ordered by 5th Special Forces with blade inscriptions. While it may not be everyone's self-defense weapon of choice, a Bowie knife is an excellent hunting knife. That was interesting. Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com. Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). If this is the knife I am thinking of (stacked leather handle with a traditional clip style blade) a friend had one when I was younger and as I recall the knife was darn near impossible to get an edge on. Check out our awesome collection now. $148.00, $185.00 After pulling out his Bowie knife, Mick exclaimed, "THAT'S a knife!" Tep. Original Price 4,289,941 From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. And, especially thanks for posting it here! US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw is an attention grabber with its classic gray hardwood handle. My biggest concern with their "chopping" ability is the very thin edge. $134.97, $149.97 Mine is a coleman with a k stamp on it. Search 284 Tramonti di Sopra local furniture stores to find the best furniture and accessory company for your project. 4,256,897, 6,978,325 1,912,315, 2,249,754 Heres mine with box and paper works as well as the original sales receipt from December of 68. 14 5/8 inches overall. Western Alamo Bowie Knife 4.8 ( 10 reviews) Your Price: $106.99 Solid stainless steel blade Handsome wooden handle with gold pins Engraved Jim Bowie name plate Includes leather sheath and certificate of authenticity Measures: 11" blade; 17 1/4" overall Product Description From the movie "The Alamo" comes the world renown Jim Bowie knife. Orsold or pawned to shops in Fayettenam! According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Vintage Western folding pocket knife. Who has the knowledge for this situation? Can't see it in picture but blade in engraved with soldiers name and 69 - 70 Vietnam. 2. Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. Consignment Program Packing Your Knives. In 2020 alone, purchases on Etsy generated nearly $4 billion in income for small businesses. http://img443.No_outside_hosting.us/i/cbf7pjgcwkkgrhqyoknmez4.jpg/. Found something you love but want to make it even more uniquely you? Exterior: Minimal Wear. The "J" on you knife is a date code. 1,722,414, 2,460,591 Wow Colonel, that is very special. In 1911, H. N. Platts, was able to draw on his extensive friendships and family connections in the cutlery world to start Western States Cutlery and Manufacturing of Boulder Colorado. Some made in Australia had cast aluminum handles. "Western" and "Coleman" are both brand names; which is it? It still could be post Vietnam presentation item but who knows. Late 1800s antique British US Western style Bowie knife marked IXL. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. that was when i was riding with a club, i'm 6'2'' and 230 lbs (wish i still was ) and nobody messed with me, great trouble detorent lol. (30% off), Sale Price 3,338,731 (30% off), Sale Price 1,025,862 Original Price 4,662,315 Beauregard Prestige Edition Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Land of the Free Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Apollo 13 Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. 1978 was "B" and so on. There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.. For Sale: Custom & Semi Production Knives (Dealer), KnifeMaker's Market: Knives & More for Sale, Wanted: Knifemaker / Craftsman / Related Services, Busse / Swamprat / Scrapyard Knives For Sale, For Sale: Traditionals, Slipjoints, "Old Timey", International (Non-US) For Sale & Trade Forums, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/872513/tp/0/all/1/, http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3218/2432943915_de56f97a16_b.jpg, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/941103-Western-W49-Bowie, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1072453-Western-Bowie-any-info-appreciated. I am glad that I resisted the SOF mods back in the 80's. Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. The knife had been made by his brother, Rezin, a year prior. Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. Original Price 4,876,847 Original Price $615.00 Original Price $121.68 ** I "BUY" KNIVES ** - Any Size Collection!!! Items are guaranteed to be AS DESCRIBED - if there is any problem with your purchase, please contact me - I value your business and want you to be a satisfied customer! Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. Original Price 2,610,345 I started looking into this subject a couple of years ago. With the above in mind at this time I would advise you to look for knives with one of the following markings: This is generally excepted as the first variation of the W49, This is the next version of blade marking the W49. Its also home to a whole host of one-of-a-kind items made with love and extraordinary care. Original Price 2,460,591 Inspect in Game. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife 29.99 This Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife is one powerful full-tang beast that every manly man needs. The Bowie knife also played a prominent role in western lore. Rare WW11 large Bowie knife made by Jack Soler from Allentown PA was a U.S. Navy Seabee during World War 11. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". 3,263,547, 4,662,315 Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. (45% off), Sale Price 2,438,424 3,722,167, 4,962,808 There are at least 4 more variations in knife markings and wooden handle type from then to 1977 when Western started date coding their knives on the blade. The western being thinner bites better. The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? Original Price 4,733,728 This would provide the best provenance to establishing the exact time periods for these variations on the Western W49 and 649 knifes. (45% off), Keep collections to yourself or inspire other shoppers! Original Price 1,995,074 JavaScript is disabled. Of the five two were chrome plated and three were not. This will differ depending on what options are available for the item. by WesternBowieAxe Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am, Post I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. (50% off), $400.00 Stuart Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Robert E. Lee Prestige Edition Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Battle of Gettysburg Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Stonewall Jackson Bowie Knife $99.95 Details P.G.T. (50% off), Sale Price 1,097,291 Original Price $169.99 UP FOR SALE IS A VINTAGE WESTERN W49-H LARGE BOWIE KNIFE WITH SHEATH. I understand where you are coming from regarding edges. These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. SHINY CRAFTS | Large Bowie Knife With Sheath 18 Inch Mirror Polished D2 Stainless Steel Crocodile Dundee Knife - Razor Sharp Custom Bowie Knife For Men, Outdoor, Hunting Knife . The W49 is the most common found today. (45% off), Sale Price 2,068,966 When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. (20% off), Sale Price 2,370,466 Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. Expect to see hard use and pitting on any knife used in Vietnam as the jungle destroyed them pretty good. You can see where some of the plating is peeling with age and use. Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. Learn more. A classic made in the USA bowie that vanished once camillus went bust. 2023 Created by Jan Carter. My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy.

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