BEMA 70: Esther Purim Ask the questions. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law (Galatians 5:1618, emphasis added). Paul bluntly addresses this idea as well: O foolish Galatians! POWERFUL MYSTERY: Rob did a great job of communicating the empowered mystery of this ancient library of texts. Internet Explorer is no longer supported. Written close to the same time as the convening of the Jerusalem Council, Pauls letter to the Galatians was penned primarily to deal with the same type of issues. It has changed the way I study my Bible and, to be honest, has reinvigorated my desire to study the Bible. * * * * WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING * * * * But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. Perhaps because their goal is to converse, rather than argue, they do not tend to substantiate any of their claims by invoking authorities or logical sequences to connect A with B. Marty does not use the term "Jewish" or "Hebrew" thinking much if at all, but contrasts "Western" and "Eastern" thinking. He asserts Joseph is egocentric. In the follow-up episode, beginning at the 7:20 mark, Solomon asserts that Joseph is exhibiting Jacob-like self-interest when Joseph asks to be remembered by the baker and cupbearer! Also, be sure that the url in your address bar begins with a secure 'https' connection. Notice the similarity of verse 3 with James 2:10. He commanded Noah to build an Ark and to bring food for all the animals that would come to him, and Noah obeyed Gods commands (Genesis 6:22, 7:5). Now I want to pass that on to others. To equate Jewish thinking with Eastern thinking is another caution flag for me. The reason for the restrictions was so that the Gentile Christians who were not under the Mosaic law would not unnecessarily offend the Jews. The first seven chapters focus primarily on the churchs growth in Jerusalem. Solomon asserts that Joseph is arrogant not just telling his brothers his dreams but much further in the account. Or are some of its teachings dangerous and divisive, worthy of correction and rejection? Just stumbled across this post and wanted to weigh in. Erasing Hell by Francis Chan. ten commandments hypnosis Search the Torah, or search and download the KJV, counterfeit Christian After all, the Mosaic law was given by God to a specific group of people at a specific time. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. President of Impact Campus MinistriesHost of The BEMA Podcast. FALSE PROPHETS The movement places a strong emphasis on Hebrew traditions and the Law of Moses. If ever there was a time in early Christianity to teach that Gentiles should follow the law, this was it. Additionally, the HRM has been influenced by the practices of Messianic Jews, but the similarities between the groups are superficial and should not be conflated. HRM proponents have argued that since the Flood account distinguishes between clean and unclean animals (Genesis 7:8), then it follows that God was simply telling Noah that he could now eat clean animals; thus it is just like the Levitical restrictions. Second, it is quite hypocritical to accuse Christians of celebrating pagan holidays (because extrabiblical ideas have become associated with the celebrations for some people) when their own celebrations are loaded with extrabiblical ideas. Broadly speaking, followers of the HRM believe that all believers in Christ are obligated to follow Jewish laws and practices from the books of Moses. merchandising There are multiple problems with this type of argument. He called it a destructive narrow-minded worldview and explained that the most destructive, narrow-minded aspects of it is that its adherents feel as if they are the entirety of Christianity rather than the tiny sliver of it that they actually are. Therefore, they argue that Christians are under the Mosaic law. First, by inconsistently following the law, HRM followers are guilty of breaking the entire law. Did the rest of the elders and apostles agree with Peter and James? Instead of being under the law, Paul stated that in Christ, we have liberty and do not need to rely on law-keeping. He is the father of Jesus Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit, and yet still one with both as God. I recommend it to people who are well grounded theologically and are looking for new perspectives. 1 Timothy 4:1, Earlier in the same evening, he commanded the disciples to love one another (John 13:34), and he gave them several commands during his ministry that are not spelled out in the Mosaic law. Also, several people responded to the original article claiming that it misrepresented their beliefs. After Paul and Barnabas declared all that God had done during their journey, particularly the conversion of the Gentiles, some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses (Acts 15:15). It says that Jesus told his disciples not to be afraid of the devil, because he is the appointed one. In his works, marty solomon reveals many interpretations of the truths surrounding the Christian faith. His family was drawn to reclaim their Jewish heritage in ways that aligned with their understanding of more recent scholarship, and to begin experimenting with new approaches to discipleship that mimicked aspects of that first-century rabbinic method. He longs to help them see why the work they do every day is part of how God is putting the world back together. Although they often speak of keeping the law, they are usually inconsistent in how this is understood and defined. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. Of particular interest here is that God specifically proclaims that he is changing what man is permitted to eat. Long before that, he confronted Cain over his evil act of murder (Genesis 4:1015). The gospel message Paul received and delivered is this: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:34, NKJV). Marty Solomon talks about the Holy Spirit from the perspective of the Hebrew scriptures and examines how Jesus calls back to Isaiah. Ministries), Ian Andrews (International Association of Healing Ministries), LaNora Van Ardsall (Fountaingate Ministries International), John and Carol Arnott (Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship), Jill Austin (Master Potter Ministries), B: Heidi Baker (Iris Ministries), Jim and Lori Bakker (The New Jim Bakker Show), Jim and Mary Baker (Zion Christian Fellowship), John Belt (Live In His Presence Ministries), Todd Bentley, Mike Bickle (The International House of Prayer), Paul and Cheryl Black (Cornerstone Fellowship), Shawn Bolz (Expression 58), William Branham[1], C: Paul Cain (Shiloh Ministries), Wes and Stacey Campbell (RevivalNow!, BeAHero.org), Michael and Natalie Chevalier (France Revival), Nolan and Heather Clark (Jesus Feast/Revival Town), Randy Clark (Global Awakening), Kim Clement, Denny and Ann Cline (Albany Vineyard Church), Bobby Connor (EaglesView Ministries), Graham Cooke, Paul and Donna Cox (Aslan's Place), Dennis Cramer, D: Kimberly Daniels (Spoken Word Ministries), Paul Keith David (WhiteDove Ministries), Matt Dentino (Outreach Ministries International), E: John Eckhardt (IMPACT Network), Lou Engle (LouEngle.com), Aaron Evans (Emerging Daniel Company), Mike Evans (Wholeness Ministries), F: Emerson and Ana Mendez-Ferrell (Voice of the LIght Ministries), Will Ford (Will Ford Ministries), Theresa Forkins-Phillips (Chicago Prophetic Voice), Francis Frangipane, Sandi Freed, G: Joseph Garlington (Covenant Church of Pittsburgh), James and Michal Ann Goll (Encounters Network), H: Bill Hamon (Christian International), Scott Hicks (True Worship Ministries), Rodney Howard-Browne (Revival Ministries International), Ray Hughes (Selah Ministries), Theresa Hurlbert (Somebody Cares Ministries), I: Israel Relief Fund: A Caring Coalition for Such a Time as This, International School of Reconciliation Studies, J: Cindy Jacobs (Generals of Intercession), Harry Jackson, Jr. (The Hope Connection), Bill Johnson (Bethel Church), Bob Jones (Kansas City Prophet), Manasseh Jordon[2], Rick Joyner (Morningstar Ministries), L: Curt Landry (Israel Relief Fund), Marty Layton (LifePointe Church), Martha Lucia (Watchman Network), Keith and Sanna Luker (Prophetic Worship Radio), M: Jonathan Maracle (Broken Walls), Nancy Magiera (HUB Ministries), Cindy McGill (Hope for the Harvest), Reeni Mederos (Warriors Cave), Keith Miller (Stand Firm World Ministries), Joshua and Janet Mills (New Wine International), Myles Munroe (Bahamas Faith Ministries), P: Ben Peters (Open Heart Ministries), Jason Phillips (Revival Town Ministries), Churck Pierce (Glory Zion Ministries), Don Potter (PotterHausMusic.net), Paula Price, Prophetic.TV, R: Larry Randolph, Rick Ridings (Succat-Hallel Tabernacle of Praise), Alberto and Kimberly Rivera (Raining Presence), Ras Robinson (Fullness Online), S: John and Paul Sandford (Elijah House Ministries), Kent Simpson (Prophetic Ministries Today), Dutch Sheets, Brian Simmons (Gateway Christian Fellowship), Donna Smallenberg, Matt Sorger, Peter Spencer (Sound of Passion), Jay Swallow (Two Rivers Native American Training Center), T: Wade Taylor, Richard Twiss (Wiconi International), W: C. Peter Wagner (Global Harvest Ministries), David and Kathie Walters (GoodNews Ministries), M Leon Walters (The Latter House Kingdom Ministries), Sandy Warner (The Quickened Word), Barbara Wentroble (Wentroble Christian Ministries), Sharnael Wolverton (Swiftfire Ministries International), Y: Bill Yount (Blowing the Shofar Ministries), they [referring to Jerusalem] had Bickle and Lou Engle over there around a couple years ago - and I do want to encourage you for it was the - YOUTH - there that said they discerned this was not from God and they were very voiceterous to stand up against it and to speak out against all this-Lynn, www.johnthebaptisttv.com/bbpress/topic/2747-, Exodus 7:11, Last Name. However, Ive yet to find a teacher that I agree with 100% of the time. In a video on the. We are to walk in the Spirit each and every day, seeking to honor God in every situation. President of Impact Campus MinistriesHost of The BEMA Podcast. Sinai, and Moses went up the mountain to hear from God. The Bible is abundantly clear that God made this covenant with the people of Israel (the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), and Moses acted as their representative before the Lord. Jeremiah 5:31, Malachi 3:5, One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. divination witchcraft In the end I did not persist with the podcast. They did not command the Gentile believers to keep the Sabbath, observe the festivals, or to be circumcised. But seriously, Ive listened to the first episode on Genesis 1 where he outlines his beliefs about its poetic form and teaches that one of the primary focuses, is introducing the idea of sabbath/rest to the Israelite community. judge JUDGING judgment Following a lengthy restatement of hundreds of commandments in chapters 428, we read these words: These are the words of the covenant that the Lord commanded Moses to make with the people of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant that he had made with them at Horeb (Deuteronomy 29:1). Each person still possessed a God-given conscience to know right from wrong (Romans 2:1416). It appears the teacher, Marty Solomon, has a huge beard and looks like a hipster.I dont know how to take this. Last Name. Fundamentally, the HRM teaches that many modern Christian beliefs and practices were introduced to the church by pagan Greeks. We were not observant, but Jewish identity was central to who we were. Hopefully others who have similar questions about the podcast will be find what youve written. The point of the above discussion is not to criticize those who wish to learn more about the Hebrew culture, traditions, and practices during biblical times. Jeffrey Vander Laan Vice President & Director of Operations. He also told Noah that murderers deserve to be put to death, because man was made in Gods image (Genesis 9:6). I create content and resources that will help you grow in your understanding of the Text so you can more fully understand who God is and be freed from all of that guilt and fear. If so, we should expect to see many more Arks being built around the world. A couple examples of arguments he makes (he might describe it is a conversation starter, not an argument). Leviticus 23 describes the proper protocol for celebrating the following feasts: Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits, Weeks (Pentecost), Trumpets, Tabernacles, and Day of Atonement. Marty now serves as the President of Impact Campus Ministries and has a passionate belief that the best way to pursue all of these dreams for changing the world is to work with the young adults who will be creating that world. So if Jesus did not violate the law by celebrating a holiday not found in Leviticus 23, then why would it be wrong for Christians to celebrate a holiday not listed in that chapter? WebMarty Solomon Interview: Asking Better Questions of the Bible. Ezekiel 13, * * * * WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING * * * *, The Midnight Cry and the Rapture of the Church. As for being able to know Jesus more, I won't be able to say until I delve further in. The same thing happens every year at Easter time. Name * First Name. All scripture is taken from the King James Bible unless otherwise specified. It is before his own master that he stands or falls. It would surprise me if they commented warmly on relativism and mysticism for no reason. Of course, this does not mean it was fine to murder someone before God told Moses, You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13). The one who exercises his freedom to keep the law must recognize and respect anothers freedom not to keep it. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum, I have heard such a response numerous times from HRM supporters. Was it because Gentiles needed to obey these laws to be saved? I can't help but think of a very polished sea stone. I will state right off the bat that I dont agree with everything Marty has to say. Besides the issue of the law being fulfilled, this claim raises two additional problems. On your trip, youre going to see things that you thought you understood and learn how they are completely different than what we were taught. I'm not well enough read to react strongly one way or another to these, but I do know enough to sense a lot of background behind those few words. Philippians 3:18-19, Marty Solomon talks about the Holy Spirit from the perspective of the Hebrew scriptures and examines how Jesus calls back to Isaiah. As conversation starters go, I'm very interested in the podcast and its perspective. The Lord called to him out of the mountain, saying, Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the people of Israel: You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles wings and brought you to myself. So each point in the following critique may not apply to every person in the HRM. Do not rely on my interpretation of its passages mentioned above or on the interpretation of various HRM teachers. Its easy to feel guilty that youve misread the Bible and dont know what God wants. They place tons of emphasis on an idea that we need this Eastern thinking in order to understand the Bible as it was intended. The last decade has been a journey of sharing resources, ideas, and experiences with others; Marty has a passion for teaching others how to ask better questions, pointing them toward experts who can help them grow and develop as followers of Jesus. This is not just an academic study to better understand Scripture and its setting but is rather a movement of restoration that claims that the church has moved off its Jewish foundation and must return to a more Jewish way of life to be authentic.2. He asserts Joseph is egocentric. In the follow-up episode, beginning at the 7:20 mark, Solomon asserts that Joseph is exhibiting Jacob-like self-interest when Joseph asks to be remembered by the baker and cupbearer! How could Paul, a Jewish believer in the Messiah, tell people that they do not need to observe special days or dietary restrictions? I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. The list was not very long. Bema gives a welcoming nod to relativism and Christian mysticism, which may have their places if correctly understood and placed under the limits of sincere human experience--if that is an impossible paradox, it is truth that prevails. Some, if not most, of these Elijah List false prophets base their teachings on Branham's teachings. James addressed the group and said, Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:1920). Many of the claims about these holidays by the HRM are flawed, being based on revisionist history, shoddy scholarship, and the misinterpretation of Scripture. The decision of the Jerusalem Council carried the combined weight of the apostles and confirmation of the Holy Spirit. Its easy to feel guilty that youve misread the Through each new lesson, the Bible began to make more sense, and the invitation to partner with God in pursuing the concept of shalom was becoming more and more compelling. WebMarty Solomon President & Director of Discipleship. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do (1 Corinthians 8:8). WebWe believe that God the Father holds all the attributes of God while exercising a unique role in the Godhead. It started a journey that would radically change Martys life and family, let alone his ministry. Podcast wise, Ive taken the easy road and just stuck with Gospel Coalition. Although he was raised in a Catholic family and received some Catholic religion education, he broke away from it during his early years. 1 John 4:1. After leading a small congregation as a young, naive pastor, he was grappling with a dissonances between the Bible he loved and preached, the Jesus he was getting to know more and more, and the normal he was handed in the world of evangelical church ministry. I am cautious, not only about some of their foundational claims, but whether their claims are reliable. You can find the BEMA Podcast here: https://www.bemadiscipleship.com/episodes 319: The Forgotten Women Presentism and Primitivism 23 February 2023 | Season 6 | 46 mins 43 secs 318: Alonzo Felder Discovering A. S. J. Allen 16 February 2023 | Season 6 | 1 hr 6 mins 317: Asking Better Questions of the Bible w/ Name * First Name. Matthew 24:11, Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because MANY false prophets are gone out into the world. Solomon asserts that Joseph is arrogant not just telling his brothers his dreams but much further in the account. Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets.4 By living a sinless life (2 Corinthians 5:21), and then dying as the ultimate sacrifice, our Passover (1 Corinthians 5:7), Jesus Christ fulfilled the law (Colossians 2:14). Their followers highly esteem Jewish practices, and Hanukkah is a very important Jewish celebration. The Gospel of Jesus, the New Covenant, is the song I sing. But, as he did in Galatians, Paul rejected such a view and told these Gentiles not to let anyone judge them if they did not follow Jewish customs, such as the dietary laws, festivals, new moons, or Sabbaths. Love Wins by Rob Bell. Some have gone so far as to challenge orthodox Christian beliefs such as the Trinity and even the deity of Jesus Christ. He called it a destructive narrow-minded worldview and explained that the most destructive, narrow-minded aspects of it is that its adherents feel as if they are the entirety of Christianity rather than the tiny sliver of it that they actually are. But the Gospel of Jesus Christ is for all peoples. I truly believe that my content will help you learn HOW to think, instead of just telling you WHAT to think. Before he ascended, Jesus delivered what is popularly called the Great Commission, in which he instructed his disciples to make disciples of all nations, and part of that process was to teach them to obey everything he had commanded them (Matthew 28:1820). Neither did the apostles at the Jerusalem Council instruct the Gentile believers to celebrate the Levitical feasts. So why did James think that four restrictions should be placed on Gentiles? In fact, they agreed at every point and drafted a letter to be sent out to Gentile believers that included the following words: The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Downplaying the teaching contained in these letters is unwise, particularly since most of these letters were specifically composed to instruct the various churches or individuals on matters of Christian doctrine and practice. Look closely at the other passages discussed in this article. HRM followers often engage in some trinitarian misdirection here. Matthew 24:14, If you find a page error it will be repaired much sooner if you report it than if you wait for me to discover the problem. [2]To my knowledge as of the time of writing this, Manasseh Jordan is not part of the Elijah List, but is a self-proclaimed prophet who has been endorsed by false teachers such as Benny Hinn, Mike Murdoch, Paula White, and Paul Crouch. Erasing Hell by Francis Chan. All page urls have been changed to meet compliancy standards. Contact Marty Staff - Contact Marty. music industry entertainment Jeffrey Vander Laan Vice President & Director of Operations. saved BORN AGAIN salvation Just saw this. Bema goes on to often repeat the idea that the Bible is not a science text book. Bible facts I did feel immediately cautious when they invoked the name of Rob Bell, because of my understanding that he is overtly Universalistic in his teachings at the least.I have NOT personally substantiated those rumors with research of my own. Both positions are fine as long as each person is fully convinced in his own mind. POWERFUL MYSTERY: Rob did a great job of communicating the empowered mystery of this ancient library of texts. The right hand plays the melody, which livens things up and tells you exactly what song you're singing. I dont have the theological education to adequately discern the legitimacy of some of the claims foreign to me. The Hebrew Roots Movement has influenced hundreds of thousands of Christians in recent decades. Certain Jewish teachings are elevated to the level of Scripture. But I certainly do not believe it made me any holier than fellow believers who have not had such a wonderful opportunity. Marty Solomon Co-Host of The BEMA Podcast Website YouTube Marty Solomon has hosted 307 Episodes. Watch along with Holy Spirit by The Bible Project on YouTube. In Bible times there were not very many real prophets of God. Being interested in the layers of meaning that come with knowledge of Hebrew and ancient Jewish culture, I started listening to the podcast.

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