Elk carry enough venison on the hoof to suggest a big cartridge and big bullet. Follow along to see exactly how. The 27 Nosler follows on the heels of the success of its siblingsthe 26, 28, 30 and 33 Noslersbeing based on the classic .404 Jeffery case, shortened to fit in a standard long-action and with much of the body taper removed to enhance case capacity. One of the most popular magnums of all time. 6.5 Creedmoor. Fully prepped, Nosler premium cartridge brass in 27 Nosler will be available in 25ct boxes. When choosing among these three .270s one must consider more than just ballistics. Get a closer look at the Nosler M48 Mountain Carbon in 27 Nosler, the latest addition to our #SundayGunday series.For more information, visit https://www.ame. The newest addition to the Nosler line of proprietary cartridges is the 27 Nosler. Wonderful elk cartridge, so is the .325 WSM, but theyre not common. So, Nosler, a company rooted in tradition but also with an eye to cutting-edge performance, has now turned its attention to the .277 caliber and brought the loading possibilities into the modern era with the introduction of the 27 Nosler. Mag. When hunting elk with a rifle, shooting distances vary widely depending on the topography and vegetation youre hunting. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. Time will tell. Heres how it performed. high B.C. A high B.C. Not exactly modern, not sizzling, hot or sexy. In the other case, it bucked around for about 5 seconds before expiring. Im not not the kind of shooter that whips out a 50BMG or .338 Lapua for a casual day on the range. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Although perhaps not an ideal extreme range cartridge, the .338 shoots surprisingly flat. can be laid at the feet of the shooter or the bullet used. The difference is .07 of an inch, the animal in the receiving end will never know that difference. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Published Feb 26, 2020 3:21 PM EST. Why I believe the actual on target energy is about the same as felt recoil. The primary example right now is the 28 Nosler, but 7mm bullet development continues, and I predict cartridge development will keep pace. I did not determine the rifling twist rate of the Cross Rifle, but Im guessing it will be faster than the traditional 1-10 inches of the .270 Winchester. It shoots a svelte .277-caliber 165-grain . I tested the new cartridge at the bench in both the Nosler Model 21 and Nosler Model 48 rifles, and was pleased with the results; the 165-grain load averaged just under -MOA, and the 150-grain load just under one-MOA. Im guessing many semi-custom brands like Fierce, Christensen Arms, Browning X-Bolts and others will soon be chambered 27 Nosler. Even at the 500-yard mark, the 27 Nosler will deliver over 2,100 ft.-lbs. The .27 Nosler works with a larger powder reservoir. So match your 7mm elk dreams to your recoil tolerance and select among this big family. Thats excellent performance for a tough animal. The tighter the cover, the shorter the rifle. The axis doe was at the head of herd, and DonDonwho despite his initial impressions made an excellent guidesimply nudged with his bristled chin and said Two-fifty. The .270s are similarly adequate for elkwith caution. Although decisively effective, this means that it is overpowered for deer. Certainly, out to 400 yards, no elk can stand up to a good 180-grain bullet well-placed from a .30-06. My 28 Nosler launches the 162 Grain EL-DX's at 3,250 FPS. No discussion of a cartridges ability to take large game would be complete without discussing foot pounds of energy. Mag. This will be influenced significantly by the terrain youll hunt. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. It will work but a little much. How the Brand-New 27 Nosler Revives the .277, We used the new cartridge on a big-game hunt last fall. Magnum, 26 Nosler, and my choice for all-round balance in a short action rifle, the 6.5 PRC. Faster models like .270 Wby. For starters, it burns more powder. 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. Handloaders report optimum performance with a sleek, high B.C., 225-grain bullet pushed to an impressive 2,882 fps from a 24-inch barrel. Quite a few elk have fallen from the 117hh in a wsm at . Which begs the question: Why arent more bird hunters using them? The .277-inch bore has been definedfor nearly a centuryby the .270 Winchester, and while that cartridge is an undeniable classic, its twist rate limits the bullet weight to 150 grains maximum, with some of the round nosed 160s stabilizing properly in certain circumstances. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. If there were a factory load of .28 Nosler Cartridges with a 168-grain Barnes LRX, Id order a whole pallet right away. How much will it cost? A year later, I couldnt be happier with my purchase. This little brother to the .338 Win. Absolutely! This was and is one key to the .300 Win. at 3,000 fps. We had set up in what I considered to be a less-than-advantageous position, a bit too skylined for my liking, and with very little cover. Recoil is stout, but substantially less than any magnum .30. I had a long and happy love affair with the 8mm Rem Mag. Weighing in at 7.8 pounds before optics and with an MSRP of $1985, the Premier Highlander is an excellent elk hunting rifle. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. The elk won't know that the bullet is .007" smaller than the .284". I haven't loaded the 27 nosler. Re-barrel to the 27 Nosler and go kill elk. Then, the barrel life will be around 1500 rounds! The .28 Nosler cartridge is one of the best cartridges for hunting elk as long as controlled-expansion bullets are used. Okay, maybe not a pallet, but a lot. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. Heavier bullets. | Both have way better bullet selection in better grain weights compared to the 270. IMR 7828, IMR 7977 and IMR 8133; Reloder 26 and Reloder 33; Hodgdons H1000 and H50BMG; all make good choices for the big case. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. Hell, Ive had at least one for 40 years. Not everybody has embraced the rage for rangeand not all elk are found in open country. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. These days certain 6.5mms have been growing in popularity despite relatively light bullets and muzzle velocities well under 3,000 fps. Again, bullet weight. Elk/Moose Sized Game; The 225-grain load in an eight-pound rifle should generate about 40.8 ft-lb of recoil energy. To take advantage of the cartridge's MPBR (+/- 3"), sight-in the .28 Nosler 160 grain factory load to hit 2.39 inches high at 100 yards. The final arbiters of the Best elk calibers are you and the elk, but here are my top five that I chose for their balance of power, reach, recoil, trajectory (drop and drift,) availability, affordability in reasonably compact, light, mountain ready rifles. But I also have a 6-foot 2-inch 20-something friend who climbs with a little 6.5 Creedmoor and lays out 66 bulls with single shots at 400 yards. The .270 Winchesters SAAMI spec maximum chamber pressure is 65,000 psi. In the article it states that the 28 Nosler carries 1500 ft lbs tot 747 yards. According to my notes, I've killed 27 elk with a 270. because the latter rolls out those wide, .338-inch diameter 250-grain bullets. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. I have both and have taken all of my fast .30 elk with them. I took some big elk with the Swift A-Frame and bullet performance was exceptional. Unless you want a new, longer range rig, then go for it! bear a closer comparison. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. of energy over the 270 Win and 600ft./lbs. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. The newest addition announced at the 2020 SHOT Show is the 27 Nosler, which, as you might have guessed, is a .270 caliber. And I write calibers and cartridges because caliber means the diameter of the bore. With its case capacity (98.4 grains water compared to about 80 grains in a .270 Wby. Chambered in the .27 caliber 6.8 Western makes this a certain elk gun. or .264 Win. Subscriber Services. But I still dont consider them a top pick for elk just because, well, larger calibers provide a slight edge. I would go with the 28. I have tremendous respect for elk. Elk dont like any of this. 1. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. In fact, thats one of the very best elk bullets out there. So, bullet performance and caliber are the measures of killing power at expected shooting ranges. Chambered in .28 Nosler, this 8 pound, 8 ounce setup kicks quite hard. Hunters typically but incorrectly use the best elk calibers to mean cartridge, but Ill use calibers for the sake of this review. Just $1 per month , Heres a list of some of the most notable cartridges for elk hunting. The old 757 is itself a proven elk getter. Obviously velocity is also a ballistics indicator and on the side of the coin, a 400 grain 416 clobbers most anything. The 28 Nosler, on the other hand, was introduced in 2015 and is known for its excellent accuracy and energy retention. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. With a muzzle brake (included with the X-bolt Pro, the gun is quite tolerable. I do enjoy the videos and your enthusiasm in them. Sticking with the 8-pound rifle, the 26 Nosler pushing a 142-grain bullet 3,200 fps will recoil 16 fps with nearly 32 f-p energy. Not faster, not always more accurate, but designed around modern bulletswhich really do offer a long-range advantage. The 28 Nosler adds considerable powder, thus energy, to push the same 175-grain bullet as the 280 AI. 1 Write a Review Q&A (2) Our Price: $110.99. Super pressure, if you will. UPC #: 054041612371. Sales bloomed immediately when it released. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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But that has nothing to do with the actual performance of the .277 SIG Fury cartridge or rifle. That bullet offers the best of all worlds, as it will reliably expand at longer ranges when it has slowed down a bit, yet will hold together at woods distances when velocities remain high; it is also respected as a very accurate bullet. Winchester borrowed the same basic belted magnum case, blew out the walls, pushed the 25-degree shoulder forward, shortened overall length to .30/06 standard, and created a powder reservoir holding about 90 grains of water. Still a great cartridge, as is the .300 Weatherby. Feb 27, 2006 5,121 173. (Or you can just stalk closer and to heck with pushing the envelope. As an elk cartridge, the .30-06 still shines. By the way, the .277 SIG Fury arose out of SIGs project to build a light, belt-fed .277 machine gun cartridge and rifle for the U.S. military. With 7mm bullets now up to 195 grains, I would barrel it with 1:8 twist, vice the old 1:9 7mm twist. Less variety in factory loads on the market. This will be for shooting mono-metal bullets mostly for elk hunting. I had the 170 elites up to 3125 fps when it was 270 wby so I'm hoping to easily get to 3200 + once it's a 27. Inside of 500 yards the ballistics and energy are comparable. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. In my situation, I think the tradeoffs of recoil are far outweighed by the positive aspects of the cartridge. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. A .270 Winchester would generate about 20 ft-lbs in the same rifle. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. Such tools may be infinitely adjustable for precision fit and performance, but Ill walk the woods and get my game with a more classic looking hunting rifle. Lots of familiar rifles are chambered for it, ammo is abundant, variable and inexpensive. . Some of us hunt still-hunt elk in black timber and on brushy lower slopes. Traditional .270s are limited by 1:10 rifling twist to 150-grain bullets. Do you feel a 140 grain Barnes TTSX would be suitable for elk? Guns. So, next best thing: If youre serious about longer shots on elk, man up and use a fast .30 with todays heavy, low-drag bullets, 200 to 225 grains. A natural question now is if other gun makers will chamber for the 27 Nosler and .277 SIG Fury. If zeroed three inches high at 100 yards, that slug should drop just 1.7 inches at 300 yards and deflect just 5.7 inches in a 10 mph right angle wind. Its a bolt action looking quite a bit like an AR-15. It usually includes hiking steep country for days with a pack on your back. Despite these developments, the original .270 Winchester continued to rule the roost. Winchesters original loadings included a 200-grain bullet rated 3,000 fps, a 250-grain at 2,700 fps, and a heavy 300-grain at 2,450 fps from 24-inch barrels. For most big game animals, energy does not kill them. Hornady Outfitter is pretty accurate and its less than its other Nosler cousins. After years of the 6.5mm craze, we may be about to witness the .270 rising. With the Jeffery-based case, youll want to look to powder choices on the slow end of the spectrum. Because elk are so tough, the farther the shot, the harder you ought to hit them! Zeroed 3.3 inches high at 100 yards, that projectile will drop just two inches at 300 yards, deflect just five inches in a 10 mph right angle wind, and cling to 2,866 ft-lb energy. shinbone # 14865591 05/10/20. With this bullet, each elk dropped in it's tracks with only one shot, all between 100-350 yards away. A standard .270 Winchester can do that, right? Im not sure if theyve won the contract or if the testing is still underway, but the civilian bolt-action rifle and ammo should become available in 2020. H4350 130 grain Barnes TSX 2980 fps in 22 inch barrel. I put a Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25x scope on my rifle, so the finished setup weighed 31.2 ounces. from a .338 Federal should deliver 1,711 f-p energy at 300 yards and drop just nine inches. This takes us back to the launch. Any real or perceived failure of the 7mm Rem. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. The 27 Nosler has a long leade for sleek, high BC, long ogive, ABLR and RDF style bullets. This new 10mm from FN is rugged, versatile, and effective. The .270s are similarly adequate for elkwith caution. Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. Once you start reaching out there, the 28 Nosler really shines. Well, bullet weight, perhaps? Based on the antique .404 Jeffery cartridge case, the 27 Nosler is the first new .277-caliber rifle cartridge . Benefits of the .28 Nosler. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. This list of the best cartridges for elk hunting starts with the welterweights and moves up to the heavy hitters. The 28 Nosler and Remington Ultra Magnum adds about 250 fps to the Rem. It will them be 3.0 inches high at 260 yards and 3.0 inches low at about 326 yards. About 1:8 would be my guess. The right .30/06 load should add 100 fps velocity and 100 ft-lb energy. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. If I were planning a rifle elk hunt, these are cartridges and calibers I would consider, across the gamut of elk hunting conditions. I have yet to see anyone do a comparison of the two cartridges, no doubt because the 27 Nosler is a very new option at this time. One of them was even a clean pass through and she only walked about 20 yards and piled-up. There are dozens of good elk cartridges, with choices depending largely on the distances you intend to shoot, thus dictating the bullet energy you need to project. .270 Winchester. Right. With archery energy is not the killing factor, yet arrows kill big elk quickly. This is, perhaps, one of the worst ways to measure a cartridges suitability for hunting because it doesnt take into account shot placement or bullet design; however, it at least provides some barometer of the cartridges power. The problem with the medium magnums (over .30 and less than .375): There are few to choose from, and only the .338 is genuinely popular with a robust selection of loads. Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. 27 Nosler 150gr AccuBond Trophy Grade Ammunition, 27 Nosler 165gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition. Mag. Skis are easily the most efficient way to cover snowy ground on foot in winter. Thats the key to each of these new .270 cartridges. but it is not a 1,000. yard Elk rifle it requires skill. Mag. Sure, I had to consider the drop and adjust for the downhill, still not a difficult shot, and the bull went nowhere. That said, dozens, nay hundreds of elk are layed low each fall by careful application of the 6.5 Creedmoor, a near ballistictwin of the Swede. The right bullet in the right place. Fireformed case, overflowing to the neck = 98.4 gr/H2O with a 150 AB seated to 3.340 OAL = 89.9 gr/H2O. more than the 270 WSM at the muzzle. Mag. Most 225-grain factory loads are rated 2,750 to 2,800 fps, enough velocity to put about 3,900 ft-lb of energy into that little bullet. At 2,500 fps and a B.C. Okay, but minimal. Use enough gun, enough caliber, and enough cartridge and bullet to invite them to dinner. Any rifle/cartridge adequate for elk at long range is also adequate up close, but my concept of a thick-cover elk rifle uses a heavy, large-diameter bullet, without concern for flat trajectory or extreme velocity. Im convinced these new, heavy bullets elevate the .270s performance on larger game: Similar to the 7mms with like bullet weights; and exceeding the capability of any 6.5mm. Faster models like .270 Wby. The 7mm Rem Mag is certainly adequate for any elk, especially with heavier bullets. Mag. Whats best for you depends on the distance you intend to shoot, based on where you hunt. With good form, a boat tail 225-grain .338 slug should rate a B.C. In this article, Ill cover the pros and cons Ive found with shooting the .28 Nosler on my recent big game hunting adventures. One of the most effective elk calibers available. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Because Winchester didnt insist on the caliber being proprietary, anyone could load and chamber for it. True. In both cases, the 163 grain ELD-X bullet did not exit the animals body and used all that energy inside the vitals. So, the most likely candidate today is a modern .45-70 lever-action, either a Marlin or Henry in the popular guide gun configuration, short barrel with easy scope mounting. At 50 and at sea level your SF would be 2+. 1:8.5 The 27 Noslers faster-than-standard twist barrel is designed to stabilize modern, long range bullets. The venerable .270 Winchester has been a mainstay on gun store racks, ammo displays and in reloaders cabinets for decades. Always, the idea is to hit a bull as well as you can, but you want to hit him hard. But .300 Win. At 800 yards the 28 Nosler carries just over 2000 ft lbs of energy. Most factory loads from a 24-inch barrel are rated 2,960 fps. Its just too convenient and effective to go away. Kali Parmley, Editor-in-chief of Bakccountry Hunter speaks with Bret Maffet of Franchi Firearms to discuss the all new Momentum All Terrain Elite. In these scenarios, shots are likely to be close and fast, and a bugling bull is pumped with adrenaline. re: new 27 nosler vs 28 nosler Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:43 pm to kengel2. A couple of friends swear by the .444 Marlin for hunting elk in oak brush. Not long ago, the .270 Winchester reigned supreme. This meant the .338 Win. No doubt Ive angered all of its fans by comparing it to the old, slow .30-06. I want to hit them well, but also hardat any range. With a .28 Nosler and a TTSX, you can pretty much guarantee a full passthrough on almost any angle. I am thinking of bullet weight and higher B.C. 27 Nosler ; 270 Weatherby Magnum; 270 Winchester; 270 Winchester Short Magnum; 28 Nosler; 280 Ackley Improved; . But where it deviates from its barrel-diameter brethren is in case capacity. 27 Nosler Load Data However, if I had it to do over, Id get a .300 PRC. Our editors have hand-picked these essential pieces of gear to make you a more successful hunter when you hit the game trails this season. The .270 Winchester fits standard-length actions with standard diameter bolt faces and standard magazines. The muscle car of .277-caliber cartridges is the recent 27 Nosler. We use cookies to make your experience better. However, you should be aware that the recoil on a .28 Nosler is not right for all shooters. For deer and pronghorn, to much gun. The Ammunition that I will be focusing on for the 27 Nosler are factory Nosler Trophy Grade 150 grain AccuBond and 165-grain AccuBond Long Range offerings. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. At Nosler velocities, no elk is going to stop a mono metal bullet. Mag. This gives it the necessary elasticity to expand and seal the chamber while the stronger steel keeps the head from rupturing. I wouldnt say Im especially recoil sensitive, but I dont have an iron shoulder either. Some come in ultralight rifles for easy mountain hunting, some in extra heavy platforms for stand hunting or longer range shooting. 26 Nosler vs 28 Nosler Cartridges. A 140- to 150-grain .264 driven to the same speeds as a .270 Win. Ditto the .416s, 44s, and 45s. My impression is that traditionalists will stick with the good old .270 Winchester. But the .338 Win. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. Those are the two loads I keep seeing in my local Sportsmans Warehouse and Cabelas. Adequate, but be careful and watch the distance. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Fully prepped, Nosler premium cartridge brass in 27 Nosler will be available in 25ct boxes. Will the 27 Nosler shove the .270 Winchester out of the limelight? The Hornady designed the .300 Precision Rifle Cartridge (the .300 PRC) as a precision long-range rifle . I did as instructed, leveling the crosshair of the Leupold VX-3HD on the onside shoulder, and breaking the trigger of the Nosler Model 21 rifle, sending a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond on its way to make meat. The 27 Nosler has a neck length of 0.328, so neck tension isnt an issue at all; generally speaking, the cartridges neck should be at least one caliber in length, and most are, with the glaring exception of the .300 Winchester Magnum. Just 3,000 fps. Im not convinced this is a good thing. Do you prefer a standard-length action or short? in a 22-inch barrel. From left to right: 27 Nosler, .270 Weatherby Magnum, .270 WSM, .270 Winchester, 6.8 SPC. I handled a sample Cross and it felt precise, tight, remarkably adjustable for fit, and impressively light at just 6.5 pounds, only about 1.5 pounds heavier than the ultralight mountain rifles Ive hunted with the past 30 years. And while most heavy .300 Win. Mag., .300 RUM, and .30-378 Wby. This nudges MV (muzzle velocity) to 3,200 fps and increases recoil velocity to almost 18 fps and energy to nearly . As for the .277 SIG Fury, well have to see if current actions are strong enough to safely contain those high pressures. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. The .300 Win Mag is the worlds most popular magnum. Before we begin, you should understand that this is a round up of the best calibers and cartridges for elk, not necessarily the most popular ones. Mag., .270 WSM, and 27 Nosler step it up a few notches, and the 6.8 Western with its fast twist barrels nudges bullet weights to the upper end of the 7mm line up. Noslers .27 will be chambered in that companys M48 bolt-action rifles. A high B.C. It's extremely flat shooting and drops an incredible amount of energy on target. Mag. They dont start as fast but with better aerodynamics, theyll pass lighter slugs at mid-range, and hit way out there with more authority. Its a 3.34-inch magnum cartridge that fits the same standard-length action rifles as the .338 Win. There have been other .270s, like the .270 Weatherby Magnum, and Winchesters own .270 WSM, but they have maintained the same 1:10-inch twist rate of the .270 Winchester, and use the same projectile weights. But up close, you notice a custom upgrade that allows this piece of machinery to do [], Citing the critical importance of elk, deer and other big game migration corridors, winter range and other vital habit, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation urged [], West Virginias elk herd continues to grow and biologists are doing the best they can to monitor the populations health, size, movements and habitat use. Call me crazy but the 117hh at 3700 would be hard to beat at 500yds. Mags. If recoil isnt a concern, you can slide up the power charts via the 33 Nosler, .340 Wby. bullets coming soon like the 165-grain AccuBond Long Range just announced and the 170-grain Berger EOL Elite Hunter (G1 B.C. worldwide popularity. Mag. Elk wont care one way or the other so long as you use a suitable bullet and park it properly. Ideally, something like the .338 Lapua Magnum makes sense but, realistically, that is too much recoil. trajectory may explain how the 7mm Rem. The included photo of the model/mock up of this case is close but not exact. How about outstanding accuracy, flat trajectories, long legs and a 165gr wallop at the end of that ballistic journey?

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