bona natural seal on white oak

bona natural seal on white oak

@mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . Get ready for a LONG story! I could also put hot pots on the stainless. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. Not change the raw color much, 2. Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? You only need an inch. They just don't get any DARKER over time. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? It has not been sanded or sealed yet so I hope we still like it when its finished. The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. Finished with three matte protective coats. Floors look VERY good! I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). I waxed it out. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. William Smith, D.D., was The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? Thanks again! Choosing finish on white oak floor. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. Really not read much about IntenSeal? The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. Some Quartzites are more grainy which make them more porous. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? The above comments are right. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. Plato has the white oak shade we like - nude cream - but the estimate came in really high. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? Thank you. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services. W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 I don't want shine either - so do I do the sealer of Natural and then do an extra matte finish? Nice, eh?! Getting gloomy from cool gray? ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Here are some of my samples. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). The reason: they turn orange. They have little to no chemical resistance. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). Those are STUNNING! Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. I knew this was IT. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? Just seemed so right. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. For a house your size and a $50k budget. (followed by Traffic HD). These posts priceless. G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. They did a great job. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. It may come in other thicknesses too. Should a distributor be able to walk me through using this product for more details? wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). @tkgriff Love the floor. ! They held up to move in with no major scratches. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. Sigh. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). You only need an inch. Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. Wow sounds beautiful! Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? It was light and made the room appear larger. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. I already lost quite a bit of money in the process so I wanted to know what I get before committing. I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. Look forward to more pictures. what made you decide to go with natural. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Whaaaaat???? I told the contractor, if he could remove the first-coat finish, I would purchase the right finish for him to use. I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. Thanks. I guess it's my monitor because I don't see the pink undertone in the Houzz photo you last posted. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. :), Absolutely gorgeous. I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". 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They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. How are things holding up a ~year later? How are you liking it so far? @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. The coating should not come up. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! Your floors are beautiful. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! WebUsing Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor Ever since greige became a big trend, people have been trying to lighten up their homes. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Ahhhh. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). I like natural white oak with your concept. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. They are dry and need one more day to cure. This was such a great informative thread. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). I wish I could do it myself or delete the rude and negative comments. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. !Are you happy with the Satin? If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. I like the stains that are made by the same company that makes the finish. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. HELP!!! When was the last coat applied? Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, Understand how sunlight affects your rooms and get tips on choosing paint colors for each type of exposure, Do you love perfection or patina? I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. Intense seal will cast yellowing. Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Please leave this post up. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. Disregard the walls (we are installing a new kitchen). If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. It was applied Saturday morning. Right? No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. Don't test just with sealer. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). A red oak floor does not need sealant. Skip the 'money saving'. His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! I'm sorry you felt diminished. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! It was one coat of seal. Thanks so much in advance!! If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. We have just received a couple samples however and they haven't had the same look as some of the inspiration picture. Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Thanks so much! First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. It is a work of art. I have about 735 sf. (The Classic has less of a haze.) You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. G&S generally makes great comments and has solid analysis but in this case he assumed something not in evidence and commented based on that. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. Look out for inexperience. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. It still should not come off. Yes, Trump2 I agree. new and it will be white oak common # 1. We want a more modern aesthetic. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. Great photos and beautiful floors! I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. 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Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. white oak hardwood flooring. Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet.

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