The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. Is that a street car? Maybe a steering unit from a w210? Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. Learn how your comment data is processed. Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. When you find one, buy it. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? Power will be greater with an LS swap. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. JavaScript is disabled. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. Use it however you wish or block it off. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 I owned a supra before this car and miss it. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. Navigation Menu. 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. Mercedes w203 Engine Swap "The Plan" (Pt.1) M271|M104|M111 Ricer Benz 4.27K subscribers Join Subscribe 143 Share 10K views 2 years ago M111 turbo Video link :. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. We had a 5.0L from an 80's mercedes, 240bhp, but decided to go with the higher revving motor. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? . VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Learn how your comment data is processed. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. Bolt starter to the engine before lowering. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. The W124 has the connection point closer underneath the brake booster line and is about 5 inches shorter. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. You are using an out of date browser. Would you recomend doing this swap? Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. You must log in or register to reply here. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. The motor is mated to a modified 722.634 five-speed automatic transmission with custom 5000 rpm converter, W124 210 mm LSD rear end, and Sportline 300E 32 mm axles. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. Yup, that's John's car. ugh! What engine can fit into this car? Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. Navigation Menu . A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. M119 upper engine harness - how to rewire temp plug? The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. it isnt a direct swap. : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. Swapped! Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. AMG would be nice and or a V8. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Engine Swap Depot. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. Was real nice. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). Install without transmission. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. Learn how your comment data is processed. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. And if so is there no way around it? The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . via Engine Swap Depot Wow, Thanks for all the info. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. You must log in or register to reply here. Connect common ground at intake manifold. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Remove with transmission attached. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? He is an electrical wizard. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. 20cm is slightly too long). CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. all that accumulated grease and oil. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. engine alone. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? Originally Posted by Kestas. Is a swap possible? The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. Include wire from ground at ignition coil bracket. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. via Oppositelock. Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. __________________. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. What can be done and how much will it cost? i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. 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