Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Then I can't consent to more time right now. If one thinks the American justice system is slow moving and against the victim most times, then one should encounter the Canadian justice system. Her former lover was found dead in a parking lot at Keystone State Park in Pennsylvania,northeast of Pittsburgh. HEATHER: I knew he'd been struggling with me moving on and dating other people. A three-volume report released in 2006 by coroner Peter Markesteyn blamed fundamental flaws in the province's social services for Zachary's preventable death. This sad tale tells how slowly justice moved and failed to protect an innocent year old child. On Nov. 3, Andrew drove Turner to the Arnold Palmer Regional Airport. Christopher Snow, of St. Michael and All Angels Church, which the Bagbys attended in Newfoundland. This is an amazing true story that waswell, not conveyed with the same fiery delivery seen in the film "Dear Zachary". Was it true? Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. Kate on average, especially at the beginning, tended to break down in despair and tears, David says. The two also had trust issues they were trying to overcome on Temptation Island,as they had both cheated on their previous partners. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 31, 2022, Great story with a big shocker i didnt see coming. Andrews said he was inspired to act two years ago when he saw the documentary film Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. MORRISON: Andrew tried to make a clean break with Shirley in October 2001. Both of them were victims of murder. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. And I saw that night her malignancy. The good life started in earnest when Kate first laid eyes on Petty Officer David Bagby, who was serving on the USS Hornet, docked in Long Beach in 1967. Newfoundland MP Scott Andrews introduced the private member's bill to reform bail provisions. Kate reacted with tremendous grief.. The pain of having lost not only their son but now also their grandson was too much to bear. Mr. BAGBY: I have a lot of trouble with those things too, and I suspect what really goes on, what's called intuition, is really a very, very complex calculation of lots of little indicators, little things that Andrew said on the phone maybe. Cpl. He and his wife also participated in a. He would always be sitting on that chair, there, Kate says, pointing to a stool at the kitchen breakfast bar, on the phone.. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. It was the last time the Bagbys would see Zachary. For more information, please see our Being from Newfoundland,I was well aware of the happenings in this book as they were happening. Cant imagine the pain the author went through writing this book. was that they'd have to accept her daily phone calls. `When Andrew would cry, David would say, `To think we paid good money for this,' Kate jokes. But the Bagbys, who live in San Jose, California, could scarcely imagine what lay in store for them. He was a happy baby, with strawberry-blond hair and Andrew's nose. It wasn't just to monitor the, extradition process. He, consumed by anger. She studied international business and marketing before finding her passion for writing. In June 2003 the Attorney General ordered that Turner be extradited to the US. Memorial University Medical School. They know they deal with their grief differently and they honor that. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. No one in my entire library system owns it either (30+ libraries), so I wound up having to get an interlibrary loan and have this book shipped to me from another state. I just would love to see them enjoy regular life again, too, as much as possible. She appealed and a hearing was set for September 2003. And when, after his first year at med school, Heather broke off the engagement, Andrew was crushed. ', He quoted Shakespeare to me, Kate says, and I thought, `This is incredible. Theyll find her. The next thing a police constable is at the door., Two bodies have been found on the beach, the officer said. He was especially delighted to hear that David and Kate Bagby are once again hauling out boxes of Christmas decorations that went unused for so long. Mr. BAGBY: We fret and worried and everything. What a flaky person. He went to work at Latrobe Area Hospital. Then, even if the court orders extradition, Canadas federal justice minister must decide whether to hand over the fugitive to U.S. authorities. MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. Well written from the heart and to the point. How could they let an accused murderer walk free? I was at work and the receptionist said you have a call from the Sunnyvale police, says Kate, then a nurse practitioner in obstetrics and gynecology at Santa Clara Valley Medical Center. Cpl. They drowned Aug. 18, 2003, in what was ruled a murder-suicide. While battling the extremely long court system in Canada, they did all they could to keep things civil between themselves and the accused murderer of their son. [2] : 494 [3] At the time, Shirley had been released on bail and . (Photo of Kate, Zachary and Shirley; photo of David, Zachary and Shirley; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photos of Zachary with Shirley and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Our usual policy was just to let her go. Even though I knew the outcome, the day the main incident occurs, I was still shocked when the pages finally reveal the events that lead up to that day. But he could not get rid of her.. I kind of. I didn't like her but I didn't think she was capable of murder.". Mr. BAGBY: What a flake. When I was growing up, she just seemed like just a normal mom, Sheers, 24, says. Mr. BAGBY: The baby would be half Andrew, and that, for us, was sweet. Switch between reading the Kindle book & listening to the Audible narration with, Get the Audible audiobook for the reduced price of $7.49 after you. keep him safe, which they feared was about to become even more difficult. We decided we have to go to Canada to watch the trial and we have to go to make sure the baby gets a good start, David says. The title of the documentary, "Dear Zachary" jumped out at me because I have a son named Zachary. She woke the baby and carried him up the stairs to her home, David recalls. I don't think I could have done what they did. This attracted the needy and insecure Turner to him. On November 3, 2001, he broke up with Turner at the airport before putting her on a plane back to Council Bluffs, 1,300 miles away. He didnt know what to make of it then. The public declaration all but removed the Bagbys doubts. Related:Temptation Island: What Happened To Casey & Ashley After Season 2? But did they manage to make it through the separation unscathed? Two days later, at 5.30am, Turner turned up at his Penntment, sylvania apartment, having driven 16 hours to see him. I read on Netflix it's best you know nothing about the story, and that is so true. KATE: I had a great childhood. (Supreme Court building; Shirley being escorted from court; photos of Kate and. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. True, heartbreaking story of a son's disastrous love relationship and the son his murderer bore. I think it was supposed to be just a brief college romance, says Kurt Kuenne, Andrews close friend since first grade at St. Andrews School in Saratoga. Zachary was learning some words well, words he understood that Kate and David were sure they understood, too. I got to go to the trial. The next day, his body was found riddled with bullets. Mr. BAGBY: And part of Andrew's problem was, I think, he was just too nice to say, you know, `Get the hell out of my life. The Hornet was just back from patrolling . If. At least he might have asleep when she went in. I wanted to read this book because I saw a snippet on MSNBC or one of those late night shows, (about the last 7-10 minutes of the show) that was actually the television version of what had taken place back in 2001. I was like, `Oh, OK, yeah.' And then we'd do it through the lawyers. Two months later, with the extradition process still grinding on, Turner announced she was pregnant with Andrew's child. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Is this Dr. Turner? He says he would blunt his emotions, shut them off, and concentrate on the baby. A tale of sorrow and survival. MORRISON: It was August 2003, the wee hours of the morning by the ocean. Not always. And I, wanted to scream, `My son's life is on hold forever, and you have the audacity, to apologize to this accused murderer?' It's just as heartbreaking as the documentary "Dear Zachary", which I HIGHLY recommend watching. Slain tot's grandparents welcome new bail law. He was developing a personality. He is campaigning to change Canadian bail law so no one charged with murder is allowed to walk the streets like Shirley Turner. And it was the happiest they had been since the days before their son was murdered. CONTRIBUTED BY DAVID AND KATE BAGBY Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. get a chance to have some of Andrew again. "When people have seen Dear Zachary, they gasp," says David. I couldn't see the point anymore. But that didn't erase their unease, or a remarkable feeling, (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; David), Mr. BAGBY: I considered killing her myself, seriously considered it. Everyone could see how far off the deep end Shirley Turner was, including the very justice system that continued to set her free and place an innocent child in her arms. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby. The rest of the documentary details the fallout of this tragedy, including Kate and David's activism changed bail laws for suspects of dangerous crimes. MORRISON: Andrew was the only child of software engineer David Bagby and his wife, Kate, a nurse practitioner. She fled to Newfoundland a week after Andrews murder and vowed to fight extradition. I agree whole heartedly, that things need to change. When I read true crime, I like to see more back story of the people involved. 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